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Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:58 am to
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All these players seem ethnically African or Slavic though



Immigrant working-class kids happen to play working-class sport. I think a small pluarity of players have German Swiss roots, with seven players by my very quick and cursory count. Three players on the Swiss team have Iberian roots, three have Bosnian roots with one a Bosnian Croat, three have Albanian descent, two have Cameroonian roots, one player is of Turkish descent, with four of the players have mixed African/Swiss parentage, and three players are African with no Swiss parentage but grew up in the country.

It is genuinely an interesting question as to why the Africanness of Mbabu, for example, might be more notable than coming from the French-speaking region of Switzerland, as linguistic divisions in Europe were deeply meaningful especially in border areas, which have long histories of admixture between ethnicities but very specific language programs to ensure everyone in the region spoke one particular language. The story should be about how Swiss have handled integration of immigrant populations far better than most other European countries, probably because the country itself has a long history of diverse origins, and thus has a robust system in which to give people regional and national identity. If we were to rate such a thing, the Swiss might be the only Old World country who handles integration decently well, though that is a fairly provocative statement.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:01 am to
I like stadium in Denmark
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:01 am to
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He's been calling games on ESPN for years and called games for the 2016 Olympics. He's fairly well known.



I was making fun of the Red Bulls and Devils
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:14 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13737 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:02 am to
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Immigrant working-class kids happen to play working-class sport. I think a small pluarity of players have German Swiss roots, with seven players by my very quick and cursory count. Three players on the Swiss team have Iberian roots, three have Bosnian roots with one a Bosnian Croat, three have Albanian descent, two have Cameroonian roots, one player is of Turkish descent, with four of the players have mixed African/Swiss parentage, and three players are African with no Swiss parentage but grew up in the country.

It is genuinely an interesting question as to why the Africanness of Mbabu, for example, might be more notable than coming from the French-speaking region of Switzerland, as linguistic divisions in Europe were deeply meaningful especially in border areas, which have long histories of admixture between ethnicities but very specific language programs to ensure everyone in the region spoke one particular language. The story should be about how Swiss have handled integration of immigrant populations far better than most other European countries, probably because the country itself has a long history of diverse origins, and thus has a robust system in which to give people regional and national identity. If we were to rate such a thing, the Swiss might be the only Old World country who handles integration decently well, though that is a fairly provocative statement.


10/10 post. I love this stuff. Where’s a good place to start reading about this stuff, you always have solid info on linguistics and ethnicity dispensation/history.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:08 am to
Is it normal them being on goal line for corner seem usually set 4-5 ft off
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:11 am to
Simo Häyhä ain’t walking through that door.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:12 am to
My team has a corner routine where half starts on the goal line and the other half on the 6 and they sprint to switch spots. It’s chaos.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:17 am to
Mika Vayrynen TYFYS
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:31 am to
I love that the Finnish have a guy named Daniel Michael O'Shaughnessy.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:33 am to
The homefield LSU gear is…underwhelming
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:34 am to
I just got a concussion watching this game
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

If we were to rate such a thing, the Swiss might be the only Old World country who handles integration decently well, though that is a fairly provocative statement.

Isn't immigration to Switzerland notoriously difficult, though. That likely helps out with integration. If you make entry/remaining costly, only those willing to pay the cost will stick around.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39491 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:38 am to
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10/10 post. I love this stuff. Where’s a good place to start reading about this stuff, you always have solid info on linguistics and ethnicity dispensation/history.



The best primers are usually the compilations of historical commentaries or specific series through major academic publishers like Cambridge, Norton, and Oxford among others. Use the library to get copies for eras you are interested in, follow the citations for things that interest you and then work backward that way. I guess people do podcasts, but I can't sit through any history podcasts because I prefer to read.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:40 am to
Listening to all stats aren’t we’s Pablocast had me
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39491 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:40 am to
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Isn't immigration to Switzerland notoriously difficult, though. That likely helps out with integration. If you make entry/remaining costly, only those willing to pay the cost will stick around.



It has gotten more difficult for non-EFTA citizens, but only relatively recently. The main difficulty is the length of time to get permanent residency, which is 10 years.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39491 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:41 am to
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My team has a corner routine where half starts on the goal line and the other half on the 6 and they sprint to switch spots. It’s chaos.



Does it work?
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8980 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:43 am to
Holy shite the look on his face before he collapsed
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13737 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:43 am to
Holy shite this looks like he’s having a seizure.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:44 am to
I was thinking seizure too. His face is blank.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46435 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:45 am to
They are giving him CPR holy shite
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