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re: Lets Talk Michael Bradley
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:57 pm to Broski
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:57 pm to Broski
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he played every single minute in the central midfield that tournament despite being just 23 at the time while his partner was always a revolving door between Rico Clark, Edu and Feilhaber.
Right. He was a much younger player at the time and he didn't have a HIGHLY motivated Jermaine Jones playing next to him. That's why his performance in 2014 was such a downer. He should never have been put in the playmaker role by Jurgen and the fact that Jurgen couldn't see that it wasn't working and make a change is why he's not the coach anymore.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:57 pm to mynamebowl
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Jay Demerit was a starting CB on that team
Brad Davis started a game for us.
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We over performed if anything dude
I'll strongly disagree with that.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:01 pm to pvilleguru
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I'll strongly disagree with that.
Strongly disagrees implies that heading into that World Cup you expected that team to make a run to at least the quarters, which is an insane expectation to have.
Even now, this program is still at the point where just making it out of the group stage is a success.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:03 pm to pvilleguru
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I'll strongly disagree with that.
I was a bit overzealous. My point was that we did some big things without an overly talented squad. Coming back from 2-0 to draw Slovenia was one of the more impressive things I've seen at a big time international tournament. And it should have been even sweeter because of the bullshite disallowed goal. The late goal vs Algeria was incredible. And those who have a brain will remember that Algeria was actually pretty damn good. Plus that hilarious draw vs England.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:06 pm to Broski
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Strongly disagrees implies that heading into that World Cup you expected that team to make a run to at least the quarters
I'm not looking at results. I'm looking at how we actually played. I think we only played well in 1 game in 2014. We should have beaten Portugal based on how we played. Looking at the play and not the score, we got ran off the field by both Germany and Belgium. Also looked like shite for 75 minutes against Ghana.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:08 pm to pvilleguru
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I think we only played well in 1 game in 2014.
We're talking about 2010.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:10 pm to Broski
Well excuse me. There was a lot of jumping around.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Broski
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By that logic, we underperformed in the group stage of the 2002 World Cup because we only won one game and lost 3-1 to Poland.
Who's to say we didn't? We should have easily handled S Korea and Poland. The wins against Portugal and Mexico were high points.
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Bradley led the team in ground covered that tournament
FFS can you and others on this board stop acting like this is some meaningful statistic? It means nothing if he runs all over the field making mistakes. And his passing % will always be high because 90% of his passes are no risk / no reward backward passes. But, but, muh ground covered???
He looked much better in 2010 than 2014, but if you just look at those 2 performances, he was not impressive.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm to SUB
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Who's to say we didn't?
Jesus fricking Christ. You really are going to double-down on the stupid, aren't you?
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FFS can you and others on this board stop acting like this is some meaningful statistic? It means nothing if he runs all over the field making mistakes
It means something if he leads the team in tackles, which you neglected to acknowledge... but hey, whatever helps your narrative, right?
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He looked much better in 2010 than 2014, but if you just look at those 2 performances, he was not impressive.
What the frick is your litmus-test for impressive for an American soccer player then?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:23 pm to mynamebowl
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Algeria was actually pretty damn good.
They looked good against us...but they were in the lowest 3rd of seeding at that world cup. We were top 3rd.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:25 pm to SUB
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Most of our team under-performed as well. We tied Slovenia and BARELY got by beating Algeria.
It was supposedly supposed to be an easy group, but neither Slovenia nor Algeria were terrible teams. There is some revisionism going on here.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:27 pm to SUB
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They looked good against us...but they were in the lowest 3rd of seeding at that world cup. We were top 3rd.
Algeria's team are basically the also-rans from the French youth system, which is light years ahead of us in terms of teaching technique. France has basically supplied all of North and West Africa with very technical footballers.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:28 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is some revisionism going on here.
That and the shocking the revelation that the expectations for us soccer is severely out of whack.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:29 pm to Broski
Yeah we are closer to Slovenia and Algeria's level than we are to England's. We should have beat both, and would have beat Slovenia if not for the phantom call on that free kick (which was never explained).
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:32 pm to crazy4lsu
I'm still recovering from somebody seriously saying we underperformed in 2002.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:34 pm to Broski
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Jesus fricking Christ. You really are going to double-down on the stupid, aren't you?
You don't think we should have beaten S Korea and Poland??? They were both almost last in seeding for that WC. If anything, we should have expected to beat them and tie or lose to Portugal. How is that stupid?
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It means something if he leads the team in tackles, which you neglected to acknowledge
I won't disagree that he performs well on defense. There are two sides to the game though.
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What the frick is your litmus-test for impressive for an American soccer player then?
You wouldn't pass it, so it's pointless to explain.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:35 pm to Broski
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I'm still recovering from somebody seriously saying we underperformed in 2002.
Not what I said, but nice try.
You were referring to group stage. We under-performed in 2 of those 3 games, probably over-performed against Portugal, until we almost let them back in.
If you look at the tournament as a whole, of course we did better than expected.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:35 pm to Broski
Sub really brought some wtf into this thread.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:36 pm to Broski
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I'm still recovering from somebody seriously saying we underperformed in 2002.
My god. Do people remember what the 1990s? 2002 felt like we made it.
There is some serious revisionism going on.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:37 pm to SUB
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I won't disagree that he performs well on defense. There are two sides to the game though.
And from 2007-2011 and in 2017 he has been a net positive in the middle and attacking third... it all went to shite when Jurgen moved him up to be an 8 or 10... Since moving back to the 6, he's been great.
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You wouldn't pass it, so it's pointless to explain.
That literally makes no sense... what a terrible deflection attempt.
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