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Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:39 pm to SUB
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We under-performed in 2 of those 3 games
How can you say we underperformed when we literally finished dead last in 1998?
Hell, we had our troubles qualifying for 2002.
And then to say we underperformed by tying South Korea, who hosted the tournament and made the semifinals that year...
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:40 pm to SUB
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We under-performed in 2 of those 3 games, probably over-performed against Portugal, until we almost let them back in.
We played the hosts to a draw. We got beat by a team who had only one loss in their qualification group, and we beat a team that had the fricking world player of the year in 2001 on it, as well as fricking Rui Costa. You are coloring your perspective by applying current standards to 2002. We weren't expected to do anything in that group.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:43 pm to SUB
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Calm down snowflakes and stop taking things out of context.
The contention that we under-performed in 2002 is utterly baseless, given the history before 2002 and what happened afterward.
I don't even buy the contention we under-performed in 2010. I can buy 2014 because we were positionally wayward, but we met expectations in 2010 and exceeded them by some measure in 2002.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:45 pm to crazy4lsu
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We played the hosts to a draw.
Such an underrated tough task, no matter who the host is.
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You are coloring your perspective by applying current standards to 2002.
Hell even by current standards a win OR a draw vs Portugal at a World Cup is about as big as it gets for us.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:49 pm to Broski
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And then to say we underperformed by tying South Korea, who hosted the tournament and made the semifinals that year..
I said earlier that we underperformed in 2010 because we barely beat and tied 2 inferior teams, and you come back with:
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By that logic, we underperformed in the group stage of the 2002 World Cup because we only won one game and lost 3-1 to Poland.
But now, 2002 World Cup group that we were in was basically the group of death and that 2002 team had low expectations to even get out of it. How can you even justify comparing these two things that are not at all alike?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:49 pm to SUB
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They looked good against us...but they were in the lowest 3rd of seeding at that world cup. We were top 3rd
What is this seeding that you are talking about?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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I can buy 2014
The Jozy injury changed everything. He was in the form of his life going into that tournament. Very sad what happened to him just 20 minutes in.
Also, hey, remember that time our coach left the best player in our nation's history at home and brought Aron Johannsson and Chris Wondolowski as back up strikers.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:51 pm to SUB
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2002 World Cup group that we were in was basically the group of death
No one said this.
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that 2002 team had low expectations to even get out of it.
No one expected us to make it out of that group.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:51 pm to mynamebowl
An injured Aron Johannsson. And Brad Davis.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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I can buy 2014 because we were positionally wayward,
As a team, making it out of group stage was the goal, and we did it, so we achieved what we went out there to do, but nothing more. I disagree that we under-achieved.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:52 pm to mynamebowl
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He was in the form of his life going into that tournament.
Not really... that was right in the middle of his Sunderland stint.
It was 2013 when he was putting everything in the net with both AZ and the US.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:52 pm to mynamebowl
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Hell even by current standards a win OR a draw vs Portugal at a World Cup is about as big as it gets for us.
It's one of those moments that nearly moved me to tears. We missed a clear goal-scoring opportunity right before the third goal when Stewart I think had a clear chance that he scuffed. We got that third goal I thought I was dreaming.
The other moment that nearly moves me to tears is that Donovan goal against Brazil in 2009.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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The other moment that nearly moves me to tears is that Donovan goal against Brazil in 2009.
Charlie Davies at South Africa instead of Robbie Findley... We beat Ghana.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:54 pm to SUB
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I said Bradley under-performed
Agree to disagree. We had no real partner to pair with Bradley, and he did a pretty superb job supporting Jozy. I'll go watch the games again to see but I don't feel like Bradley under-performed at all.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:55 pm to Broski
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No one said this.
I know, but by the comments made by you and others, you are implying it.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:56 pm to SUB
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I know, but by the comments made by you and others, you are implying it.
Then your reading comprehension sucks.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:57 pm to Broski
I think if we had Davies we would have beaten England. We had a clear chance at the end to do it, with that Jozy chance that went off the bar.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:58 pm to Broski
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Not really... that was right in the middle of his Sunderland stint.
"Form of his life" was too much. He played really well in a few games leading up to the tournament. He scored twice vs Nigeria in the final tune up game and looked really good in the others.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:59 pm to SUB
Care to explain what you mean when talking about seeding at the World Cup?
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