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re: MLS’s wild plan to fund a Messi move
Posted on 3/29/23 at 12:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 3/29/23 at 12:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Ref Bull Arena being in NJ is not what is holding MLS back.
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Only way to solve the issues in MLS is for Gregg to go around giving behind the back pass seminars.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:34 pm to Broski
American soccer continues to be a joke. All the way down to the academy level.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:45 pm to TCO
TBH I think most of us are happy with the progress some MLS academies are making
But they were not set up with the intent to help the national team or depth of MLS
Once some teams saw how profitable they can be they then started investing in it when they saw FC Dallas making bank.
But they were not set up with the intent to help the national team or depth of MLS
Once some teams saw how profitable they can be they then started investing in it when they saw FC Dallas making bank.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:53 pm to TCO
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All the way down to the academy level.
The academies are in a very good spot right now.
The problem with MLS begins with GAM, TAM, JAM, RAM, HAM, FAM, PAM, YAM, BAM, CAM, DAM, SAM, WAM
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:58 pm to Broski
Well maybe he meant pay to play
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:27 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Well maybe he meant pay to play
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:59 pm to Broski
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The problem with MLS begins with GAM, TAM, JAM, RAM, HAM, FAM, PAM, YAM, BAM, CAM, DAM, SAM, WAM
For real there needs to be a dictionary for all the acronyms.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:18 am to StraightCashHomey21
owners to messi
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:08 am to Girth Donor
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Only way to solve the issues in MLS is for Gregg to go around giving behind the back pass seminars.
It’s time for healing to begin
Good thing Claudio didn’t succeed in taking away our cool Nikes and bounce passes.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:11 am to StraightCashHomey21
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TBH I think most of us are happy with the progress some MLS academies are making But they were not set up with the intent to help the national team or depth of MLS
Wait, what?
Why should an MLS team care about the national team? You think the point of Manchester United’s academy is to create talent for England?
Nah, they want depth/the occasional star and sell the rest for £££
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Once some teams saw how profitable they can be they then started investing in it when they saw FC Dallas making bank.
Yeah, most non powerhouse clubs in leagues all around the world do this. Get some depth and sell your best players for profit. None of this is unique to our domestic league.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:19 am to Broski
Doesn’t Messi have enough left in the tank to sign a 1 or 2 year Premier League deal? I don’t know why he wouldn’t do that.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:32 am to cwil177
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Wait, what? Why should an MLS team care about the national team? You think the point of Manchester United’s academy is to create talent for England? Nah, they want depth/the occasional star and sell the rest for £££
Um actually yes it is one of their goals
Quality home grown English talent is worth more
The English Academy system and the FA 15 years ago came up with a full integration plan and it’s been working wonders when they overhauled the way youth players were developed. I thought I posted the results a few months back I’ll look for the article again.
Also look how France does it as well
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Yeah, most non powerhouse clubs in leagues all around the world do this. Get some depth and sell your best players for profit. None of this is unique to our domestic league.
Major clubs do it too
Madrid’s academy is the most profitable in Europe
What I’m saying is MLS owners didn’t even care about youth development until they saw moneys. In other nations money is a part of of it but the major factor is building a successful team to either get promoted or win the league
MLS owners don’t care about that.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:33 am to cwil177
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Why should an MLS team care about the national team?
This attitude is the problem right here. US fans sympathize with owners using our national league as a tax haven.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
bUt wHy wOULD Manchester uNitED cArEee aBoUt tHe EnLiSH nATional tEAM
Elite Player Performance Plan
The USSF and MLS are not even close to this kind of organization and integration
Elite Player Performance Plan
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The EPPP is the result of consultation between the Premier League and its clubs, representatives of the Football League, the Football Association and other key football stakeholders. Introduced in 2012 with the mission of producing more and better homegrown players, the plan promotes the empowerment of each individual player through a player-led approach. The EPPP works across three phases: Foundation (Under-9 to Under-11), Youth Development (U12 to U16) and Professional Development (U17 to U23). The Premier League Football Development Department work for, with and on behalf of our clubs to deliver a world-class youth development system via the delivery of four key functions:
The USSF and MLS are not even close to this kind of organization and integration
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:46 pm to lionward2014
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Saw this the other day and it is beyond stupid. Would melt so hard. I'm not trying to help Ft. Lauderdale get better.
MLS sucks cock. Give me Messi in Miami and I would actually watch at least 25% of their games and 100% watch all of his goal and assist and dribble highlights
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:47 pm to Pedro
Imagine being a manager or player who needs help in their squad but their cheap arse owner wont do it
Only to see them paying the oppositions player
The single entity is an issue for this sport
The owners are more worried about the collective bc if one makes money they all make money with revenue sharing, even if their franchise takes repeated financial losses.
Only to see them paying the oppositions player
The single entity is an issue for this sport
The owners are more worried about the collective bc if one makes money they all make money with revenue sharing, even if their franchise takes repeated financial losses.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 3:54 pm to StraightCashHomey21
frick that. Would be a slap in the face to fans.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 4:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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This attitude is the problem right here.
Obviously we all want our domestic academies to churn out talent that improves our national team. Maybe I gave the wrong impression. But a business is a business. Players playing well for the national team increases player values, so there is an incentive there to develop them with a strong academy (FCD academy TYFYS). Better players also put butts in seats and these academy players are usually paid less than an equivalent player bought from another club. Do you expect clubs to fund expensive academies out of the kindness of their hearts?
Also, why are you so hung up on the tax haven thing? You seem like a pretty smart guy so maybe you can explain why this is bad. Considering where domestic soccer was less than thirty years ago I’m happy to have a league that 1. Increases in quality every year 2. Is producing talent for the national team 3. Has a burgeoning academy system that is bearing fruit and 4. Doesn’t have teams folding like in the first 10 years (RIP Fusion).
Posted on 3/30/23 at 4:59 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Quality home grown English talent is worth more
I put the relevant part in bold.
Baw you and I both know the English rules have created a highly inflated value for the English player within the EPL.
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I thought I posted the results a few months back I’ll look for the article again.
If you find it please post it here. Sounds like an interesting read.
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What I’m saying is MLS owners didn’t even care about youth development until they saw moneys. In other nations money is a part of of it but the major factor is building a successful team to either get promoted or win the league
I think you’re overestimating how much other countries’ academies care specifically about helping their national team vs their own coffers. Good point about pro/rel encouraging player development though. Wish we had it here but with the way MLS has a buy in you know it’s not happening, sadly. I could maybe see it in 20-30 years but before that it seems unlikely.
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The owners are more worried about the collective bc if one makes money they all make money with revenue sharing, even if their franchise takes repeated financial losses.
I do find it hilarious that Americans hate the idea of socialism but our sports are more socialistic in their functioning than things in Europe.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 5:01 pm
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