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re: Women’s World Cup Thread
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:10 am to rebelrouser
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:10 am to rebelrouser
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Do they keep getting that 6.5m if they start losing?
You know the answer to this. It’s never going back. Read any of the articles about pay equity. They still aren’t satisfied. They are mad at FIFA that the payout for the whole tournament isn’t even.
Even if the US wins the whole thing, they will only get $10mm which means the me are already giving $3mm that they earned in one of the most cutthroat, competitive sports in the world.
What if the women hadn’t gone through last night? Would they have gotten a $1mm?? Then both teams are splitting $14mm with the women’s brining nothing to the table.
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:13 am to StraightCashHomey21
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The USMWNT just used to out athlete everyone in the classic American sporting sense. It would take a fluke or a moment of individual brilliance for them to lose years ago.
Well we know trying to out athlete teams in this sport doesn’t work when your opponent is technically and tactically good. The world is using their knowledge from the men’s game and putting it into the ladies now.
Great point, will add for a long time a higher percentage of elite female athletes played soccer in the US than in other counties, even in the EU countries where a lot of their elite athletes choose track, volleyball, rowing, etc, over soccer.
But now those countries, and parts of Asia, South America, and even Africa are seeing soccer become a viable sport for many of their elite female athletes. Combine that with improving technique and tactics, the built-in size, speed and skill advantage US women have enjoyed for 30 year has almost vanished.
Last, and probably whole other topic, but the US men have been bolstered by a more diverse player pool including dual nationals playing for the US, 1st/2nd generation immigrants, and more players from middle/lower class families. I might be wrong but seems like the women's team still largely draws from an upper class, west coast/east coast player base.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:20 am to bayou2
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For years my kiddo had to listen to my moto "soccer politics will kill the sport" since 1996 and not believing it was true ...
Women's soccer appears to be stronger than ever not sure how the sport is being killed.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:28 am to Dizz
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:06 am to NOLALGD
The other countries are now getting them the same areas they get the men players
I know it’s a running shtick from people in the English media that Lauren James could hang with premier players. Obviously she can’t but you can tell she spend the majority of her football development vs high level boys. She trained in the Arsenal men’s academy. Her touch and technique looks like a high level professional male player.
I’ve never seen anything like it, and I was watching the US ladies play before the 99 WC. Most females are easy to knock off the ball and tend to prance when getting control. She doesn’t have that issue, he lower body strength and coordination looks like men. Women tend to receive the ball, take a touch tap it forward then take off with it. You see men do it too but usually when slowing the game down in attack. Men usually will take the ball in stride at the elite level with their touch and take off with it. She does that, elite explosiveness with elite technique. I’ve never seen a USWNT player do what she does.
I know it’s a running shtick from people in the English media that Lauren James could hang with premier players. Obviously she can’t but you can tell she spend the majority of her football development vs high level boys. She trained in the Arsenal men’s academy. Her touch and technique looks like a high level professional male player.
I’ve never seen anything like it, and I was watching the US ladies play before the 99 WC. Most females are easy to knock off the ball and tend to prance when getting control. She doesn’t have that issue, he lower body strength and coordination looks like men. Women tend to receive the ball, take a touch tap it forward then take off with it. You see men do it too but usually when slowing the game down in attack. Men usually will take the ball in stride at the elite level with their touch and take off with it. She does that, elite explosiveness with elite technique. I’ve never seen a USWNT player do what she does.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:36 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Sweden is going to shove it up their a-hole in the round of 16. Sweden always has a quality side.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:53 pm to The Boat
This team is about to see their most well-known names ride off into the sunset or hang around and be ineffective. What happens to a USWNT with no household names and no recent international success? I know they will get some run in the Olympics but this program is dangerously close to falling back into obscurity for a while.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:33 pm to The Boat
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Sweden is going to shove it up their a-hole in the round of 16. Sweden always has a quality side.
Yep, and it's going to be glorious.
I hope that every women's international side has saved the bullshite Fox ads about how impossible it was going to be to beat the USWNT and plays them on loop during every comp (including friendlies) for the next 4 years.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:35 pm to udtiger
Megan said everyone who isn’t watching is missing out bc it’s going to o be epic 
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:52 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Carli Lloyd had some choice words:
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"There’s a difference between being respectful of the fans and saying hello to your family. But to be dancing, to be smiling. I mean, the player of the match was that post.
Adding that she felt the team's performances at the tournament lacked the passion shown by previous incatnations, she fired a barbed criticism the way of the players involved, saying: "You were lucky to not be going home right now. It started to shift post 2020 and there are a lot of off-the-field things that are happening. You never want to take anything for granted.
"You put on that jersey and you want to give it everything you have for the people who came before you, the people who are going to come after you and I am just not seeing that passion. I am seeing a very lacklustre, uninspiring, taking it for granted. Winning and training and doing all that you can to be the best possible individual player is not happening."
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:16 pm to SUB
I know everyone is having a good time bashing the players in this - but I feel coaching is a much bigger issue in this tournament.
It's clear to me that the plan was to run everything through Horan in the center and attack out wide with Swanson and Macario. That probably would have worked - but both are out injured. Rodman and Smith aren't the same caliber or type of player, and it's clear that Vlatko doesn't know what to do formationally or team composition-wise to change anything.
Having to play Ertz at CB instead of midfield isn't helping, either.
Lavelle and Horan have to play more than they should be defensively. Portugal played 5 at the back most of the game, took away the two outside players and that was that.
Netherlands did the same thing. We attacked at the beginning with Fox and Rodman down the side, and it was working. Netherlands quickly adjusted, and we couldn't answer.
"Our original game plan didn't work and now we're fricked" is some Jurgen-level bullshite, and the coaching in the rest of the world is more capable these days.
It's clear to me that the plan was to run everything through Horan in the center and attack out wide with Swanson and Macario. That probably would have worked - but both are out injured. Rodman and Smith aren't the same caliber or type of player, and it's clear that Vlatko doesn't know what to do formationally or team composition-wise to change anything.
Having to play Ertz at CB instead of midfield isn't helping, either.
Lavelle and Horan have to play more than they should be defensively. Portugal played 5 at the back most of the game, took away the two outside players and that was that.
Netherlands did the same thing. We attacked at the beginning with Fox and Rodman down the side, and it was working. Netherlands quickly adjusted, and we couldn't answer.
"Our original game plan didn't work and now we're fricked" is some Jurgen-level bullshite, and the coaching in the rest of the world is more capable these days.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:09 pm to Dizz
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This team is about to see their most well-known names ride off into the sunset or hang around and be ineffective. What happens to a USWNT with no household names and no recent international success? I know they will get some run in the Olympics but this program is dangerously close to falling back into obscurity for a while.
They will always be one of the best sides in the world, due to the advantages US women have over the rest of world. But they could turn into a women's version of the English men...always one of the 5 most talents teams in any comp, but when they aren't losing to lose to less talented, but more poised teams, they play well but can't get over the hump against the other big boys.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 4:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Lauren James is awesome. But prime Mia Hamm, and at times mid-career Carli Lloyd, were also on another level from other women's players, similar to James.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:01 pm to NOLALGD
I was half watching and there was no sound this morning but I still don't understand why her (Lauren James) second goal was ruled off?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:15 pm to udtiger
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I hope that every women's international side has saved the bullshite Fox ads about how impossible it was going to be to beat the USWNT and plays them on loop during every comp (including friendlies) for the next 4 years.
I’m sure the teams from other countries are furious that the US media was biased towards US teams, even the ones that didn’t happen like saying it’s impossible to beat the US
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:01 pm to RandySavage
She scored another banger in the second half
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:29 pm to udtiger
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Sweden is going to shove it up their a-hole in the round of 16. Sweden always has a quality side.
Yep, and it's going to be glorious.
why would you root for this? Are you Swedish?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Never had good pace
Yep
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or technical ability
I guess we will disagree here. Rapinoe sucks arse as a person but she has always been one of the more technically proficient players imo
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:15 pm to Sheep
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know everyone is having a good time bashing the players in this - but I feel coaching is a much bigger issue in this tournament.
Vlatko has no idea what he’s doing. Completely incompetent. This is not a great roster by US standards but an average coach would have absolutely won the group just by making a few subs in the Holland match.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:07 pm to Warrior Court
This thread highlights the fact that most American males, feel threatened by powerful women who aren't afraid to raise their voice to stand up for what they believe in. Congrats on being in line with Muslim and middle east nations. Praise be Allah!
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