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Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Unless there's some home run hire waiting in the wings, then Les has lost me


I am now expecting promotion from within. Miles is going to get worked, and if so, this may be the last straw. Even the pumpers are turning on him.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26405 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:05 pm to
Exactly. Nobody knows how many people have actually been offerered and turned down this job. Without knowing that, how can you say LSU, Les, or Alleva have screwed this up?

This isn't a race at this point. It's best to take the time to make the right hire.

Also, none of you meltdowners have a clue how Brick would do coordinating this defense. What he did at Baylor a decade ago doesn't mean shite. Everyone just calm down, take a deep breath, and try to enjoy Lsu football rather than being terrified of failure.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3243 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:05 pm to
You're being led on.

Alleva will do this one on the cheap. He'll hire Brick as the DC and Orgeron will not be in the mix. LSU hasn't spoken with Orgeron and will not in the future.

LSU will get Brick Haley and some unknown position coach for the coming season.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42245 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

This is Les's hire.

Head coaching hire would be a different group of people.


Obvious different group of people but it's still pie in the sky thinking that everyone will come running especially if you have watched coach searches go down at many of the other premier programs recently
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19497 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

What effort am I making?
are you being serious? you must spend literally hours a day fighting the good posi-Tiger fight.

I'm just saying, it's impressive
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 10:07 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42245 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:08 pm to
As opposed to the same people spending hours a day trashing the program? Why call me out?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29480 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:08 pm to
By striking out on the two premier DC candidates available. It's obviously not clear if it's Les' or Alleva's fault, or the extent to which either of them are to share the blame, but this has been a catastrophe of a situation.

If Haley is promoted from within, this offseason will have been an abject failure. The one constant (aside from 2008) keeping LSU afloat as an almost-contender in the SEC west over Miles' tenure has been the defense. Given the addition of another big rival in the West and an overall improving division, LSU is at a crossroads and could fall precipitously as a program in terms of success and prestige.

Your mocking of posters understandably up in arms does not change this reality.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29266 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

LSU will get Brick Haley and some unknown position coach for the coming season.


Haley has damn near mentally checked out of the hotel so the offer of DC would have to be a substantial salary increase. He is worried that if LSU fails that he will be the blame and he doesn't want to leave LSU with a Lou Tepper type reputation.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15323 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

He deserves to get fired more than anyone else on our staff yet we're about to promote him to fricking DC.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26405 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:09 pm to
quote:




99% chance you are a democrat



Nope
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19497 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:10 pm to
I'm not calling you out bro, I mean no harm

Just a comment from me from reading your stuff lately. Carry on.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82183 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Obvious different group of people but it's still pie in the sky thinking that everyone will come running especially if you have watched coach searches go down at many of the other premier programs recently

I don't think most expect a bunch of coaches to line up. But there are definitely some good coaches we could get. I highly doubt we would promote from within.
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Has this search at least shown to some of you that when les goes that doesn't necessarily mean every coach in the country is going to be lining up outside of the sports admin building?


Why don't we wait until the announcement is made over what this search has shown us.

Miles could still make a good hire.

And the last time miles hired a DC, he was less than 2 years removed from a NC, he's 4 years removed from an SEC Title, and his future is not as solidified as it used to be.

There are many factors could be at play with this search.a new DC could have demands that LSU is not willing to give and hurts the process such as:

1. Salary demands for market value on certain candidates
2. Bringing over of assistant coaches that miles doesn't want that
3. The guaranteed money if miles is fired.

There are tons of things the fans don't know and will never know that could hamper this search, but it doesn't make the job some crumby undesirable job.

But as I said. Lets just let les finish this process before we go to Defcon 1.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42245 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

But there are definitely some good coaches we could get. I highly doubt we would promote from within.


I agree

I also hope we would never promote from within to head coach. I think the best way to replace a head coach is new blood.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12688 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
Roll the dice on Bill Clark.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
dont let him lie to you. he is a democract, he leans left, and he is homosexual, as per his poliboard posts.


and yes, I expect bill clarks name to rise now.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 10:14 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42245 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by tigerbait915
Member since Apr 2013
484 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
I get the feeling Miles has indicated that he will step down in a couple years, and Alleva is not willing to guarantee a long term contract. This may be the issue with Chavis, Shoop, and possibly Pendergast, although others have said that Pendergast wanted to choose his own staff. Brick may end up being the only one willing to take the job ona short term basis.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107615 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
Good news is if brick gets promoted we get a new head coach quicker....their will be nobody else to blame
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3649 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Someone point to hope? I'm losing mine!



I am usually very positive about our program, but if we promote from within we are accepting the fact that we are a mediocre program that isn't capable of bringing in a big name coordinator. Spin it however you want, but in the SEC arms race we will be way behind when it comes to coaching.

I hope I'm wrong, but I believe Brick as DC is the nail in the coffin for Miles tenure here, I just hope Alleva goes with him.
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