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re: They may be trying to get Kelly for cause
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:30 am to RazorBroncs
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:30 am to RazorBroncs
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LSU's stance is that he wasn't formally fired because Woodward didn't have the authority, so isn't he technically still the coach
If your boss tells you that you are fired, are you supposed to keep showing up until your boss’ boss fired you??
This seems to be a pretty underhanded stance LSU is taking here.
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:35 am to 756
1. “Still an employee until separation docs”
Wrong.
• Employment contracts (like Kelly’s) end on notice, not paperwork.
• LSU’s public firing + removing duties = constructive termination under LA law.
• No “separation docs” needed for without-cause trigger — contract says “termination”, not “signed release.”
• Kelly’s lawsuit seeks declaratory judgment that firing = without-cause now.
2. “Legal posturing for settlement”
100% correct.
• LSU’s “no formal termination” claim = leverage to force lower settlement.
• Both sides posturing — Kelly wants full $54M w/ offset, LSU wants $0 via “for cause.”
• Settlement likely $35–45M to avoid trial.
3. “Fall under company policy + contract”
Partially true.
• Contract supersedes policy where they conflict.
• “For cause” defined only in contract — policy can’t expand it.
• LSU can’t use generic HR rules (e.g., “insubordination”) unless contract allows.
Bottom Line
Kelly was terminated (functionally).
LSU’s delay is tactical, not legal.
Contract governs — not HR policy.
Settlement imminent.
Wrong.
• Employment contracts (like Kelly’s) end on notice, not paperwork.
• LSU’s public firing + removing duties = constructive termination under LA law.
• No “separation docs” needed for without-cause trigger — contract says “termination”, not “signed release.”
• Kelly’s lawsuit seeks declaratory judgment that firing = without-cause now.
2. “Legal posturing for settlement”
100% correct.
• LSU’s “no formal termination” claim = leverage to force lower settlement.
• Both sides posturing — Kelly wants full $54M w/ offset, LSU wants $0 via “for cause.”
• Settlement likely $35–45M to avoid trial.
3. “Fall under company policy + contract”
Partially true.
• Contract supersedes policy where they conflict.
• “For cause” defined only in contract — policy can’t expand it.
• LSU can’t use generic HR rules (e.g., “insubordination”) unless contract allows.
Bottom Line
Kelly was terminated (functionally).
LSU’s delay is tactical, not legal.
Contract governs — not HR policy.
Settlement imminent.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:40 am to Circle K Beggar
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This tells me Landry is still involved. His state ranks either dead last or close to last in every meaningful category but LSU football is the axe he chooses to grind?
You think the state just magically landed there after Landry was elected?
This state has been there my entire life.
If anything the stats have gotten better.
I’m not knighting for him, but I think you people are the ones who put us in those rankings. The stuff y’all post is so incredibly dumb.
Yes he should shut the hell up, but he wants a good coach and isn’t afraid to say what we all want to about these inflated contacts that are killing us.
We’ll get a good coach just relax it’s not going to happen before the season ends.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:46 am to Circle K Beggar
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This tells me Landry is still involved.
No, this is simply LSU’s only possible argument against paying the full buyout. LSU is trying to save money and this is a negotiation. Unfortunately for LSU, it’s weak and BK isn’t taking a pay cut.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:59 am to uptowntiger84
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Hope it goes to court and LSU gets Kelly's wife, the realtor, and the female football staffer he was sleeping with all on the witness stand and let the story unfold for everyone to see. Do you think Kelly would slam his fist on the table like he did after the Vegas loss to USC?
Or you can just pay him and move on and save the public show
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:00 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
LSU is hurting for money and they don't have the funds to pay.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:05 am to LSUinMA
This is a cluster.
Shaping up to be as entertaining as the old Tennessee coaching searches.
Shaping up to be as entertaining as the old Tennessee coaching searches.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:09 am to LSUinMA
This is 100% Landry too.
When they all met at the Governor's residence the sunday they fired BK, there were a ton of Attorney's there. They said Woodward didn't have the authority to fire him. When he was probably told to do so.
I also don't think they are trying to win, I think they are trying to push it until he gets another job.
When they all met at the Governor's residence the sunday they fired BK, there were a ton of Attorney's there. They said Woodward didn't have the authority to fire him. When he was probably told to do so.
I also don't think they are trying to win, I think they are trying to push it until he gets another job.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:13 am to IM_4_LSU
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A few important things to note. BK is still receiving his salary payments. BK was also informed he was being relieved of his duties as the Head Coach but he was not being "officially terminated." Which is why they continued to pay his salary until they could reach a settlement. He refused so now last Wednesday or Thursday he was being informed of their intent to fire him for cause since he wasn't officially "fired."
This argument is retarded, but playing along, would he have been let in the building if he showed up? Assume at minimum they have some type of ID card to get into the building, was his deactivated? Your employer can't prevent you from doing your job and then argue you didn't do your job so you are being fired for cause for it.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:25 am to biglego
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No, this is simply LSU’s only possibly argument against paying the full buyout. LSU is trying to save money and this is a negotiation. Unfortunately for LSU, it’s weak and BK isn’t taking a pay cut.
Not only is it weak, Kelly now has a strong case for breach of contract and a weaker case (still a case that can be used to threaten for leverage) for libel based on LSU’s misconduct claims.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:27 am to LSUfanaddict
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Infidelity seems to be a growing problem with LSU coaches. The whole program is a cluster.
I know just the guy. Everyone keeps saying we need to find the right "fit". Who is better than this guy????
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:29 am to LSUinMA
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They may be trying to get Kelly for cause
Should be easy... be CAUSE he sucked at his job. Bottom line, if you were hired for a purpose and you don't meet those expectations then you should be fired for CAUSE.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:34 am to LSUcajun77
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I’m not knighting for him, but I think you people are the ones who put us in those rankings. The stuff y’all post is so incredibly dumb.
Buddy, I had the good sense to leave the state over a decade ago. Best decision I ever made. I couldn’t wait forever for the state to improve. And it will never improve in our lifetime.
I know the state has always had problems but Landry is doing nothing to improve those especially in meddling with LSU football of all things.
quote:
Yes he should shut the hell up, but he wants a good coach and isn’t afraid to say what we all want to about these inflated contacts that are killing us.
If he wants a good coach, he’s got a twisted way of showing it. He has single-handedly torpedoed this entire search. He is an absolute embarrassment and comes off as someone who is severely lacking intelligence. See his “Bowl Championship Series” comment from a couple of weeks ago.
quote:
We’ll get a good coach just relax it’s not going to happen before the season ends.
Say hello to Frank Wilson. He’s the only one that will touch this radioactive mess made by YOUR governor.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:34 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Can someone explain this? How was he not fired? Seriously, is this what the university is claiming??
No one can explain it b/c LSU is reaching. They only put out press releases and held press conferences about it. Then changed their mind after he rejected the settlement offers. If handled properly, LSU would have never paid out the $53-54M left on the contract. The damage being done to the school by the idiots handling this is going to be far worse than that buyout.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:59 am to AlaskaAg
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Kelly was fired as they announced it, replaced him, fired their AD over it
Kelly is still being paid his salary. So even though he was "relieved" of his duties as Head Coach he is still being paid therefore employed. Its a legal loophole. Which is why LSU informed Kelly he was still going to be paid his salary to keep their "options" opened while they tried to negotiate a settlement.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:09 am to Alatgr
But in a Louisiana court that just might work
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:20 am to LSUinMA
Kelly hiring a lawyer and fighting the buyout is delaying the coaching hire?? Probably
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:46 am to Circle K Beggar
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completely given up hope on getting even a halfway decent coach now
Same here - I wish they'd just find a good intelligent high school coach in some large school district with a record of success against tough teams and good morale.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:53 am to IM_4_LSU
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Its a legal loophole. Which is why LSU informed Kelly he was still going to be paid his salary to keep their "options" opened while they tried to negotiate a settlement.
I am greatly unschooled in legalese but the above sounds like a good thing to me.
I interpret it to mean = "let's settle on an equitable separation so we don't have to fire you 'for cause'."
Now, if he has reneged on the agreement to settle within reason, pull out the 'for cause' accusation and kick has arse back to ND.
assuming of course they have a 'for cause' cause.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:56 am to FistFest
quote:this is not going to happen. Don't listen to message board bullshite.
so now it’s time to go scorched earth.
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