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OSU OL Harry Miller announces medical retirement, reveals mental health (suicide) battle

Posted on 3/10/22 at 3:25 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 3:25 pm
I found his message about his battle with suicidal ideations really powerful.

In addition, I know Ryan Day is not very well-liked on here, but only relatively recently he opened up about his father committing suicide when he was only 9. And him and his wife have started a charity to address mental health. It appears that he may have helped save Harry's life.

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Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 3:39 pm to
It takes a lot of courage to deal with strong mental health issues, let alone to make them public. Addressing suicidal thoughts and fighting them head on is brave. Maybe his bravery will give others with the same problems the strength to seek help.

Good luck to this young man.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42173 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:02 pm to
That was a tough read. I had a hard time keeping it together reading that. It almost made me feel the same way I felt when I read my brothers suicide note. I wish he has the same intervention that Miller had.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

It takes a lot of courage to deal with strong mental health issues, let alone to make them public. Addressing suicidal thoughts and fighting them head on is brave. Maybe his bravery will give others with the same problems the strength to seek help.

Good luck to this young man.


Yep, well said. Hope he gets all the help he needs.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15377 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:08 pm to
He’ll help the world a lot more with this than he ever could have in football

This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 7:09 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:10 pm to
Damn. That was a tough read. Kudos to him for taking care of himself and getting the help he needed. Kudos to Ryan Day for being supportive of this young man. I wish him nothing but the best.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:12 pm to
Sad to hear that. Hope the kid gets the help that he needs.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

It takes a lot of courage to deal with strong mental health issues, let alone to make them public. Addressing suicidal thoughts and fighting them head on is brave. Maybe his bravery will give others with the same problems the strength to seek help.
For sure. And while almost every time I see someone refer to "toxic masculinity," it's usually nonsense, but one of the few (if not the only) legitimate examples of toxic masculinity was this idea that men should not discuss their feelings, emotions, etc. or seek help addressing them and it's weak to do otherwise.

And this just made the problems even worse because they think they were alone in experiencing those issues so something was especially wrong with them.

So I think athletes (Kevin Love and his anxiety, Harry here) for many reasons are in a perfect position to destigmatize these issues because if they experience them and they are willing to get help, then I think others will feel more comfortable themselves. And you can't argue that they're not masculine either.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:43 pm to
Thanks for posting this here. I thought about posting it when I read it earlier.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104589 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

For sure. And while almost every time I see someone refer to "toxic masculinity," it's usually nonsense, but one of the few (if not the only) legitimate examples of toxic masculinity was this idea that men should not discuss their feelings, emotions, etc. or seek help addressing them and it's weak to do otherwise.


People (women) say they want you to be emotionally vulnerable but when you are, they don't want to hear it or worse, use it against you. After a while you realize it's bullshite and act accordingly.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17370 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:06 pm to
I don’t know you Harry but I am proud of you. It takes a great deal of courage to speak up like you have.

I will be praying for you and the impact you will have on other men with the same issue.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80210 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:13 pm to
Just a note for message boarders life myself, Ohio State fans have been questioning and railing on the staff for more info on WTF was going on with Harry. We needed help on our line all year. This answers that question.

Sometimes, many times, things are bigger than football.

Not to say fans, people watching and following the game, aren't wrong to criticize players, but this is life.

Have compassion. Players are people.

I pray for Harry, and all those struggling with demons that haunt our young men and women.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Dawgfan247
Member since Jan 2021
1900 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:58 pm to
I don't remember there being 5 star centers, then UGA and OSU signed 1 each in the same year. Crazy how neither may make the league. I hope Harry finds the peace he needs and he gets his head right, mental health is no joke.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:59 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:08 am to
quote:

People (women) say they want you to be emotionally vulnerable but when you are, they don't want to hear it or worse, use it against you. After a while you realize it's bull shite and act accordingly.
I have no idea what kind of women you’re opening up to, but seems like you should just avoid them altogether. I also would think if this is some recurring thing going on for a while, it might be a you problem (either bad at picking them and/or you contributed to the problem). I can’t think of anyone I’m close with who is like that.

Regardless, I don’t know why you just assumed you had to open up to a woman (spouse or one you’ve been close with and trust aside; although that might explain part of your problem), when you could open to family, friends, therapist, etc., literally anybody but those who might make things worse.
Posted by JFT96
Member since Dec 2021
672 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:59 am to
If a guy steps away from a sport for mental health issues he's cheered on here. If a woman athlete does it, like we've seen the past few years, she gets absolutely lambasted for it.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20680 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:14 am to
Hope he's able to find happiness. In my early 20s I attempted it, my roommates drug me to the toilet and made me throw up the pills and slapped me silly to keep me conscious, if not for that I would have expired that night in 2013...9 years later I'm at peace and have a wife and a stable job and trying for a kid. 9 years ago I would have never imagined I could be as happy as I am now, I didn't think it was possible. If anyone's reading this that only sees the grey cloudy skies in their life, the sun is just behind them, you just have to give it time to let the clouds part and let the sun shine through.
Posted by BoogerTiger
In the General’s Pear Orchard
Member since Dec 2021
50 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:24 am to
The timing of reading this incredibly brave young man has shaken me to my core. I’ve been searching for the right professional help for my mental illness and have not had any real luck for over 20 years. Always too ashamed to admit to my general practitioner that I have had suicidal thoughts and one suicide attempt. I’ve never told anyone. Found God after that attempt but my mind still loses all hope at times and tonight was one of them. The mind is scary.

I literally texted my ex-wife and mother of my child right before seeing this the longest text I’ve ever typed that was an obvious cry for help with no attempt at being subtle. I had no one else I could think of and I’m scared too death of my mind when I’m going through these severe episodes. Sent it to her in the middle of the night which is fricked up for me to do to her. I just pretty much woke her up and dumped it in her lap and asked to help me fix my head before I do anything stupid bc I’m too exhausted to keep fighting this illness alone.

But Harry Miller putting this out there for all to see gives me hope for another morning to come. I’m about to call that number even though I should be trying to sleep.

Thanks for posting this buckeye_vol.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20670 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 5:24 am to
These medical conditions are more common than people realize.

The brain has so much wiring and chemical reactions that can change quickly.

Sometimes the brain gets overloaded like a heart with atrial fibrillation. Thoughts get beyond one’s ability to control.

Get help if your thoughts are out of control.

Tomorrow will be better.
Somebody loves you and needs you.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82591 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 7:09 am to
Very good share and I'm happy things are better for him. Forget football but just life. Also, lots of props to Ryan Day for lending a hand to help out.
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