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Worst trade in Pelicans history?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 6:44 am
Posted on 4/7/23 at 6:44 am
It's been 3 seasons and we have watched Jrue Holiday become a Superstar (All Star, All Defense, Civic Awards, World Championship,
best record in the East again..). Looking back on that trade, we got taken to the cleaners. I know we didn't want to give him a big new deal. But then we trade for McCollum and pay him about the same (a much lesser player). It's a bit of hindsight. But have we ever got so little for a better player (other than letting Randle walk for nothing)?
Is that the worst trade we ever made?
best record in the East again..). Looking back on that trade, we got taken to the cleaners. I know we didn't want to give him a big new deal. But then we trade for McCollum and pay him about the same (a much lesser player). It's a bit of hindsight. But have we ever got so little for a better player (other than letting Randle walk for nothing)?
Is that the worst trade we ever made?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 6:47 am to brmark70816
Let’s see what happens with those picks when giannis is out for a season …
no wait, that’s just us that has fragile superstar talent
no wait, that’s just us that has fragile superstar talent
Posted on 4/7/23 at 6:47 am to brmark70816
Bruh...we traded for Tomas satornosky
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:12 am to brmark70816
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Is that the worst trade we ever made?
This trade was a favor to Jrue. He wanted out and we gave him the best chance to win. I’m sure Griffin would have loved to keep Jrue.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:17 am to brmark70816
the tm3 trade was great.
jv + tm3 for Adams who is in stem cell surgery and ziaire Williams whose knee injury happened after doing summer league as ball handler and then to Barcelona with Santi aldama. went from decent 2 way rookie to mia.
the memphis paper noticed tm3 showed up big time to beat the griz.
jv + tm3 for Adams who is in stem cell surgery and ziaire Williams whose knee injury happened after doing summer league as ball handler and then to Barcelona with Santi aldama. went from decent 2 way rookie to mia.
the memphis paper noticed tm3 showed up big time to beat the griz.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:17 am to higgsBoson
And Zion wants out so he just stops playing during his 1st 4 years while being crowned a savior with a Max contract.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:24 am to PUB
quote:
Zion wants out
he better get on the court then because he's worth nothing in street clothes.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:27 am to PUB
That’s really tough to say but I don’t see any world where one could say it was a bad deal. Jrue was on an expiring deal. Two of our current starters largely came from that deal in CJ McCollum and JV. And we still don’t know what is to come from the future draft capital.
You give the Pels too much credit, we’ve done much worse than that lol.
You give the Pels too much credit, we’ve done much worse than that lol.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:30 am to brmark70816
We made a trade that the league vetoed because it was that bad. We don’t really have a good track record on trades.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:49 am to BigPerm30
“Maybe” one could say hindsight, and maybe one could say we should have drafted better. But the end result of trading what could have been Darius Garland for Jaxon Hayes and Naw is devastating.
Trading Baron Davis for essentially Speedy Claxton was pretty crushing for me at the time.
Trading Baron Davis for essentially Speedy Claxton was pretty crushing for me at the time.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:17 am to PELsu
KD to PHX.
not trading Zion for KD.
not trading Zion for KD.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:20 am to CelticDog
And people called AD "street clothes". AD looks like the Man of Steel compared to the 22 year old "franchise player who is softer than a cup of mashed potatoes sitting in a gallon of water.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:56 am to brmark70816
quote:You think 1 additional losing season with Jrue then he goes to free agency would have been better than the return what we got?
Is that the worst trade we ever made?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 9:08 am to PELsu
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But the end result of trading what could have been Darius Garland for Jaxon Hayes and Naw is devastating.
I think garland was injured. so similar to teams passing on Halliburton.
injury history before draft is THE red flag.
and Naw was terrific in college.
the hayes reach was the huge error.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 9:15 am to brmark70816
worst trade in New Orleans basketball history has to be trading 2 firsts and a second for a way past his prime Gail Goodrich.
those picks:
1977 6th overall (HOFers Bernard King and Jack Sikma were 7th and 8th)
1978 8th overall
1979 1st overall (Magic Johnson)
1980 2nd round 26th overall
who knows. That may have saved basketball in New Orleans having those picks instead of the ghost of Goodrich.
Worst in Hornicans history:
trading Kobe for Vlade
Worst in New Orleans Hornicans history:
maybe Asik
those picks:
1977 6th overall (HOFers Bernard King and Jack Sikma were 7th and 8th)
1978 8th overall
1979 1st overall (Magic Johnson)
1980 2nd round 26th overall
who knows. That may have saved basketball in New Orleans having those picks instead of the ghost of Goodrich.
Worst in Hornicans history:
trading Kobe for Vlade
Worst in New Orleans Hornicans history:
maybe Asik
Posted on 4/7/23 at 9:19 am to brmark70816
Eric Gordon. Years of pain. We should look at the teams from that time and feel blessed that our current situation is way better. Guys didn’t want to be here, there was no plan, no path.
Even if our FO is still garbage our players are building a culture here.
Even if our FO is still garbage our players are building a culture here.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 10:00 am to PELsu
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That’s really tough to say but I don’t see any world where one could say it was a bad deal. Jrue was on an expiring deal. Two of our current starters largely came from that deal in CJ McCollum and JV. And we still don’t know what is to come from the future draft capital.
I always thought of gaining McCollum as a result of the Davis trade. The prime pieces were Hart and NAW, who came directly from that.
I am not saying one more season of Holiday and let him walk. You either trade or extend him. But we got little to nothing out of it.
Over the past 3 seasons, Holiday has been a superior player to Davis. The trades are not remotely close in value. I just can't think of a situation where we got so little. The Paul trade is close (not technically a Pelicans deal though. I'm not sure how much of our history we sold to Charlotte). I'm just surprised it's never brought up..
Posted on 4/7/23 at 12:08 pm to brmark70816
quote:There was no team that was going to offer wayyyy more for Jrue, so that alone, you can't call it some "worst trade ever"
I just can't think of a situation where we got so little.
And again, Jrue did not want to stay with us, so this entire thread really doesn't make a lot of sense.
You can't say a guy has been soooo good since we traded him so we should have traded him for more, that's not how it works. You have to have a team willing to give him more. We got what his value was at the time for a guy who wasn't going to stick around long term.
Posted on 4/7/23 at 12:15 pm to brmark70816
Jrue is my favorite player of all-time. I wanted him here more than anybody and hated to see him go. But we got a pretty good return on him especially since he quietly said he wanted out. You lose leverage when players do that, but we got a nice haul for him. Not even close to being our worst trade.
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