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My wild offseason Pt 1. (Pelivolution)
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:32 am
Step 1: Vibes are great but we need to rock the boat.
1) Do NOT pick up Team option on Willy
2) Sign EJ to a standard Contract
3) Sign Karlo Matkovic to a standard contract
4) Pick up Naji Marshal Team option
5) Use portion of MLE to sign Naz Reid
Trade:
IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild
OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest)
2023-2024 New Orleans Pelicans
Herb / Jose / Seabron
BI / CJ /
Trey / Buddy / Naji
Zion / EJ
Turner / Reid / Matkovic
In-Season: 9-man rotation of Herb / BI / Trey / Zion / Turner / CJ / Jose / Buddy / Reid
Continue to develop: EJ / Matkovic
Expirings: Buddy
Playoff rotation: I think you keep the same 9 man rotation if things are going well. If someone is hurt (more like someone will be hurt) you should have some insurance now.
MORE importantly this roster IS UNDER THE TAX.
1) Do NOT pick up Team option on Willy
2) Sign EJ to a standard Contract
3) Sign Karlo Matkovic to a standard contract
4) Pick up Naji Marshal Team option
5) Use portion of MLE to sign Naz Reid
Trade:
IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild
OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest)
2023-2024 New Orleans Pelicans
Herb / Jose / Seabron
BI / CJ /
Trey / Buddy / Naji
Zion / EJ
Turner / Reid / Matkovic
In-Season: 9-man rotation of Herb / BI / Trey / Zion / Turner / CJ / Jose / Buddy / Reid
Continue to develop: EJ / Matkovic
Expirings: Buddy
Playoff rotation: I think you keep the same 9 man rotation if things are going well. If someone is hurt (more like someone will be hurt) you should have some insurance now.
MORE importantly this roster IS UNDER THE TAX.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:33 am
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:35 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild
OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest
No thank you.
Did the Pacers make the playoffs? Are any of those in the top 3 of their roster?
All of that for little upgrade..
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:36 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild
OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest)
Hard pass. You can get a better return than that with that package.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:38 am to 50_Tiger
pels stacked league fricked
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:38 am to 50_Tiger
That package gets you close to getting a guy like Fox, not a chance in hell you give up the equivalent of 5 1st round picks foe Turner and Heild
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:39 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
2) Sign EJ to a standard Contract
Why on earth would we do something we absolutely don't have to do? Let him prove his talent and health in Birmingham.
quote:
5) Use portion of MLE to sign Naz Reid
Naz is going to command more than the full MLE
quote:
IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild
OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest)
That is way too much for the inefficiencies we'd get in return.
quote:
Herb / Jose / Seabron
BI / CJ /
Trey / Buddy / Naji
Zion / EJ
Turner / Reid / Matkovic
These are the dumbest rotations ever.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:39 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
Hard pass. You can get a better return than that with that package.
Who is this mythical person you can get?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:40 am to hassan whiteside
If thats what it costs for hield and turner then im out
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:41 am to Broski
quote:
Why on earth would we do something we absolutely don't have to do? Let him prove his talent and health in Birmingham.
1.579m dollar contract????
quote:
Naz is going to command more than the full MLE
LINK
quote:
If Minnesota could get Reid on something like three-year, $22 million deal, that seems workable for both player and team. A sensible deal structure could look something like this:
2023-24: $8,000,000
2024-25: $7,360,000
2025-26: $6,720,000
The Full MLE is roughly 12m
quote:
That is way too much for the inefficiencies we'd get in return.
Again I pose the same question to you. Who is this mythical player we can get for that trade.
quote:
These are the dumbest rotations ever.
Those arent my rotations, just a depth chart
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:42 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:
If thats what it costs for hield and turner then im out
Its about 40m in salary needed. We wont be tax payers and those are really the only contracts you can give up to get both.
You could drop Larry and one of Dyson/Kira to get just one though.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:43 am to Soggymoss
quote:
That package gets you close to getting a guy like Fox, not a chance in hell you give up the equivalent of 5 1st round picks foe Turner and Heild
Bro you are NOT getting Fox for that package
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:43 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Again I pose the same question to you. Who is this mythical player we can get for that trade.
Has nothing to do with holding off on that trade because we could get something better with the package. Has everything to do with giving up way too much for players that aren't worth that much.
quote:
Those arent my rotations, just a depth chart
What the frick do you think rotations are based off of?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:45 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Again I pose the same question to you. Who is this mythical player we can get for that trade.
You could probably get Wendell Carter Jr. and Garry Harris with much less going out. I think that's the general direction they need to look. Aiming lower, because aiming high is just going to be too much.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:45 am to TigerinATL
quote:
You could probably get Wendell Carter Jr. and Garry Harris with much less going out.
HARD PASS
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:48 am to Broski
quote:
Has nothing to do with holding off on that trade because we could get something better with the package. Has everything to do with giving up way too much for players that aren't worth that much.
FA's dont want to come to NOLA, you have to overpay in trades to get things here (until view of NOLA changes obv)
quote:
What the frick do you think rotations are based off of?
We play 5 out for the most part. Trey would more than likely be playing the 3 with Zion and stay on the court and play the 4 when ZIon leaves. Data suggests that Trey is a plus asset playing the 4.
Herb starting at PG is so that we can leverage the teams non desire to guard him. CJ is essentially a super 6th man who still gets starting minutes.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:50 am to 50_Tiger
Does this math work? It's possible my quick math is off, but I don't see how that would be under the tax.
We're at $157M for 2023 as it stands, Tax is estimated at $162M.
Jonas, Larry, Dyson, Kira and Willie's salary for 23 add up to $34,154,062; which brings our total to roughly $123M (when their salaries are removed)
Turner is owed $20M for 2023, Hield is owed $19M, signing EJ and Karlo will cost roughly $4M going by Herb's salary.
Adding that in and now our 23 total is $166M, which is over the tax. Once we get over the tax our MLE drops to $6,479,000 (Slightly off, actually $6,969,000 for 23), which wouldn't be enough for Naz
We're at $157M for 2023 as it stands, Tax is estimated at $162M.
Jonas, Larry, Dyson, Kira and Willie's salary for 23 add up to $34,154,062; which brings our total to roughly $123M (when their salaries are removed)
Turner is owed $20M for 2023, Hield is owed $19M, signing EJ and Karlo will cost roughly $4M going by Herb's salary.
Adding that in and now our 23 total is $166M, which is over the tax. Once we get over the tax our MLE drops to $6,479,000 (Slightly off, actually $6,969,000 for 23), which wouldn't be enough for Naz
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:50 am to TigerinATL
Actually ATL I know I said Hard Pass but you arent wrong. This team loves dumpster diving.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:53 am to 50_Tiger
quote:So Wendell Carter is dumpster diving?
Actually ATL I know I said Hard Pass but you arent wrong. This team loves dumpster diving.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:53 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:
Does this math work? It's possible my quick math is off, but I don't see how that would be under the tax.
We're at $157M for 2023 as it stands, Tax is estimated at $162M.
Jonas, Larry, Dyson, Kira and Willie's salary for 23 add up to $34,154,062; which brings our total to roughly $123M
Turner is owed $20M for 2023, Hield is owed $19M, signing EJ and Karlo will cost roughly $4M going by Herb's salary.
Adding that in and now our 23 total is $166M, which is over the tax. Once we get over the tax our MLE drops to $6,479,000, which wouldn't be enough for Naz
Using Spotrac
Trading #14 has a caphold of 3.9m
Not picking up Willy's option would be another 2.55m
We would have to make Naz's first year under 7m. To get to be under.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:56 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:
Adding that in and now our 23 total is $166M, which is over the tax.
I'd bet it won't be over the tax. With the new CBA they are adding $160 million in licensing merch revenue to BRI which should raise the cap by about $2.6 million. The past few years we've gotten about a $2 million bump from the projection based on the playoffs being competitive and having good ratings. Hopefully that happens again and you can add about $4-$5 to the cap which would push the tax line out about $5-$6 million.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 10:57 am
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