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Fair rate to pay 13 year old for labor?
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:37 am
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:37 am
My nephew is looking to buy some Christmas presents and asked if he could come do some physical labor to earn some money. We're going to be painting a metal fence, pulling up around 200' of T Post fence, pulling some wood posts.
Assuming we work 5-8 hours, is a proper amount somewhere between $50 and $100? I was thinking about starting him at $75 for the day and if he does a good job and works hard maybe go up to $100-125 depending on what we get done.
Assuming we work 5-8 hours, is a proper amount somewhere between $50 and $100? I was thinking about starting him at $75 for the day and if he does a good job and works hard maybe go up to $100-125 depending on what we get done.
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:48 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Sounds like in the ballpark of $15/hr. If a 13 yr old isn't happy with that, he can go kick rocks!
I did crap like that for my dad during holidays and summers at around that age. Most of the time, pay was a home and bed and meals. Of course that was many years ago.
Pulling of the fence doesn't sound like more than 2 days max. Painting a metal fence sounds like it is gonna suck. At least it's cool now.
I'd probably tell him $100/day, based on 6-8 hrs work.
I did crap like that for my dad during holidays and summers at around that age. Most of the time, pay was a home and bed and meals. Of course that was many years ago.
Pulling of the fence doesn't sound like more than 2 days max. Painting a metal fence sounds like it is gonna suck. At least it's cool now.
I'd probably tell him $100/day, based on 6-8 hrs work.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:57 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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My nephew
Hard labor.... $17-$20 an hour.
I'll see you on the money board in 6 months after you 1099 his arse and come back asking what to do.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:03 am to Boudreaux35
My dad owns a commercial fire alarm business and I remember working with/for him since I was 12 years old. Started handing him tools on the ladder and going from there. When I started working for him I was making $12 an hour but life is way different now 20 years later.
Somehow I get trapped into fence work more often than I'd like to admit. We'll be painting the metal fence at my parents house. They had it put up and let it sit for 5 years so it's nice and rusted. I've treated the rust, and applied a coat of primer to it already. All that's left is the top coat. And yes, it has sucked. My back isn't what it was 20 years ago and all the work down low kills the back.
I really want to teach the nephew to do something trade oriented he hasn't done before and I figure painting a fence is inconsequential enough to get his hands dirty. I'd really like to teach him to weld or wood work. I'll wait until we hit a project at my house to do that though.
Somehow I get trapped into fence work more often than I'd like to admit. We'll be painting the metal fence at my parents house. They had it put up and let it sit for 5 years so it's nice and rusted. I've treated the rust, and applied a coat of primer to it already. All that's left is the top coat. And yes, it has sucked. My back isn't what it was 20 years ago and all the work down low kills the back.
I really want to teach the nephew to do something trade oriented he hasn't done before and I figure painting a fence is inconsequential enough to get his hands dirty. I'd really like to teach him to weld or wood work. I'll wait until we hit a project at my house to do that though.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:06 am to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:I would offer him 125.00, with 20.00 deducted every time he looked at his device or if you had to tell him more than once. I have a 14 and a 12. These are my rules when you help me. Outside of their rooms, bathrooms and keeping trash taken out and dishwasher empty...which are requirements for being a family member, I pay them for anything such as yard work, stacking firewood, helping with my family business....etc.
Assuming we work 5-8 hours, is a proper amount somewhere between $50 and $100? I was thinking about starting him at $75 for the day and if he does a good job and works hard maybe go up to $100-125 depending on what we get done.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:08 am to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:Outstanding. And I know people will probably disagree but if he does a decent job if you show pride and support for what he did versus nitpicking it will go a long way to helping him mature. If he just half asses it with no effort or pride in what he is doing, that is a different story
I really want to teach the nephew to do something trade oriented he hasn't done before and I figure painting a fence is inconsequential enough to get his hands dirty. I'd really like to teach him to weld or wood work. I'll wait until we hit a project at my house to do that though.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:12 am to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:Last thoughts, coeer the rules of working with you with the parents, I have seen parents seem to get upset when the kid goes out and shows zero work ethic and ends up with very little. I doubt this happens with your boy, he is asking for the work.
My nephew is looking to buy some Christmas presents and asked if he could come do some physical labor to earn some money. We're going to be painting a metal fence, pulling up around 200' of T Post fence, pulling some wood posts.
Assuming we work 5-8 hours, is a proper amount somewhere between $50 and $100? I was thinking about starting him at $75 for the day and if he does a good job and works hard maybe go up to $100-125 depending on what we get done.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:13 am to WhiskeyThrottle
10/HR
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:54 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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I really want to teach the nephew to do something trade oriented
Doesn't matter if the kid has the smarts and ambition to be a brain surgeon, it is invaluable to learn "trade" lessons. One thing I wish I had learned growing up was how to weld.
I started working part time as a HS student in the 80's. Minimum wage was $3.35 and I was making $5. I thought I was king......And I pissed it away so fast!
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:59 am to WhiskeyThrottle
100 bucks is fair and generous for a days work
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:02 am to tigerfoot
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Outstanding. And I know people will probably disagree but if he does a decent job if you show pride and support for what he did versus nitpicking it will go a long way to helping him mature. If he just half asses it with no effort or pride in what he is doing, that is a different story
He's a good kiddo. When he comes over with his mom, he's always asking to help with whatever I'm doing. I had him pressure washing the patio one year.
He's the kid that is doing the majority of the work on the football field. Just naturally gifted in all the positions he plays, but he's in the gym working like he has something to prove still. When he knocks a player down, he extends an arm to help them up after making a tackle.
I'm hoping to get him set up, show him how to run the paint gun, then turn him loose and check on him every few minutes. It doesn't really require both of us to do the painting but since he's never done it before, I'll have to make sure he's getting good coverage without leaving runs and what not.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:27 am to WhiskeyThrottle
15/hr is more than adequate
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:29 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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He's a good kiddo. When he comes over with his mom, he's always asking to help with whatever I'm doing. I had him pressure washing the patio one year. He's the kid that is doing the majority of the work on the football field. Just naturally gifted in all the positions he plays, but he's in the gym working like he has something to prove still. When he knocks a player down, he extends an arm to help them up after making a tackle. I'm hoping to get him set up, show him how to run the paint gun, then turn him loose and check on him every few minutes. It doesn't really require both of us to do the painting but since he's never done it before, I'll have to make sure he's getting good coverage without leaving runs and what not.
Sounds like a really good kid that has potential to go far in life - your opening statement that he wanted to learn money to buy Christmas presents reveals that. Also sounds like he has an equally good uncle. Be realistic so that he understands the true value of his labor as a life lesson at an early age, but it certainly sounds like $10-15 hour is reasonable.
I remember my Dad bringing me to the family machine shop at age 14 on Saturday mornings to work until noon, they worked 1/2 days on Sat back then. I punched a time clock like other employees and was paid minimum wage.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:05 pm to CrawDude
quote:I try really hard with mine to have them to help with stuff and take ownership. At 14 and 12 they are growing up too fast. But the other day I mentioned to them they take some of theirmoney and look into getting their mother something nice for Christmas.
Sounds like a really good kid that has potential to go far in life - your opening statement that he wanted to learn money to buy Christmas presents reveals that.
I am not sure that this has ever occured to them a day in their life. I have failed them in at least one area for sure. Now the nice one, the 12 year old, wants to buy his mom a 500 dollar pair of earrings or such. THat is how much he has in the safe. The 14 year old seems to think an Old Navy tshirt should suffice.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:10 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
I made $5.25/hour at that age, which translates to $10/hr now. Dad took half my check and put in a Roth, then I spent the rest on aquarium shite and video games. I'd say your $75-$100 is a good starting number.
One thing you may think about is asking him how much he thinks he's worth. Have you number, but make him come up with his number first. Learning what you're worth is hard for most people.
One thing you may think about is asking him how much he thinks he's worth. Have you number, but make him come up with his number first. Learning what you're worth is hard for most people.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
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One thing you may think about is asking him how much he thinks he's worth. Have you number, but make him come up with his number first. Learning what you're worth is hard for most people.
I was kinda planning on doing this actually. I struggle a lot figuring out what to charge for side jobs like this. I'm in the fortunate position to not NEED money. I just enjoy working with my hands since my day job is software development. Growing up working with my dad made me really enjoy working with tools and figuring out how things work. But when it comes time to tell people how much they owe me, I am a fish out of water. I was going to ask him to name a price just for my own humor to see what he says. Ha.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:41 pm to tigerfoot
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Now the nice one, the 12 year old, wants to buy his mom a 500 dollar pair of earrings or such. THat is how much he has in the safe. The 14 year old seems to think an Old Navy tshirt should suffice.
This strikes me as really funny for some reason. Kids have a funny perception of money for sure.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:14 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
3 hots and a cot
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