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Thoughts On Cell Cameras/Cameras
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:59 am
What’s everyone’s opinion on the use of cell cameras and regular game cameras these days?
I know everyone’s hunting tactics differ and also that not everyone has same amount of time to hunt/scout.
Listening to my favorite hunting podcast I’m hearing more and more of hunters using more cameras to do their scouting for them. Is actual feet on the ground and woodmen ship become a lost art?
I’m starting to switch episodes when a fella starts talking about running 10-20 cameras.
Yes I have a few cell cameras I set up on feeders for wife and kids but I pride myself in using none on public land.
Technology is slowly taking the “sport” out of it. Between livescope, e bikes and cell cameras, game species don’t stand a chance.
Could it be these podcast have interviewed all the non camera using hunters and are scraping the bottom of the barrel for new content.
Yes I’m yelling at clouds! haha
I know everyone’s hunting tactics differ and also that not everyone has same amount of time to hunt/scout.
Listening to my favorite hunting podcast I’m hearing more and more of hunters using more cameras to do their scouting for them. Is actual feet on the ground and woodmen ship become a lost art?
I’m starting to switch episodes when a fella starts talking about running 10-20 cameras.
Yes I have a few cell cameras I set up on feeders for wife and kids but I pride myself in using none on public land.
Technology is slowly taking the “sport” out of it. Between livescope, e bikes and cell cameras, game species don’t stand a chance.
Could it be these podcast have interviewed all the non camera using hunters and are scraping the bottom of the barrel for new content.
Yes I’m yelling at clouds! haha
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:08 am to WillFerrellisking
EF Hutton? 
We have some. Its nice when you don't have time to scout like you want to. Also exciting to catch a glimpse of a good one. It keeps you in the woods on days you may not have felt like hunting. I guess I'm neutral on camera use.
We have some. Its nice when you don't have time to scout like you want to. Also exciting to catch a glimpse of a good one. It keeps you in the woods on days you may not have felt like hunting. I guess I'm neutral on camera use.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:15 am to JDPndahizzy
lol, no I’m not Hutton/Lamplighter!
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:17 am to WillFerrellisking
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What’s everyone’s opinion on the use of cell cameras and regular game cameras these days?
Cell cameras are a game changer for running hog traps.
As for deer hunting, I feel like their only effect on me is getting me more motivated to get into the woods when hunting gets hard and you think the deer have all disappeared. You have to take them for what they are, just because a deer was there on Friday doesn't mean they will be there on Saturday. Plus I've killed several good deer that I had never seen on cameras that had been in the same location for months.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:26 am to WillFerrellisking
I don't have anything against them but I quit using cameras a few years ago. I mostly hunt public but I have permission to hunt about 20 acres that's 5 minutes from my house. I used to keep a few cameras on the 20 acres.
There were a lot of mornings/evenings where I could have gone hunting but didn't go because nothing had been moving on the cameras. I'd get discouraged. If I weren't using cameras I probably still would have gone and enjoyed the shite out of not seeing deer. I've also had them pretty much ruin a season when I'd be a picture of a big arse buck and get caught up on shooting him. 2021 season I passed up 3 or 4 bucks I would have been very happy with because I was hunting a monster I had pics of. I'm pretty good at hunting deer but not at hunting a specific deer.
There were a lot of mornings/evenings where I could have gone hunting but didn't go because nothing had been moving on the cameras. I'd get discouraged. If I weren't using cameras I probably still would have gone and enjoyed the shite out of not seeing deer. I've also had them pretty much ruin a season when I'd be a picture of a big arse buck and get caught up on shooting him. 2021 season I passed up 3 or 4 bucks I would have been very happy with because I was hunting a monster I had pics of. I'm pretty good at hunting deer but not at hunting a specific deer.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:33 am to Loup
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There were a lot of mornings/evenings where I could have gone hunting but didn't go because nothing had been moving on the cameras. I'd get discouraged.
Best deer I ever killed was on a stand that had a camera on it for years. I could even tell the does apart and was wondering if I was going to cause them to go blind with all the infrared flashes. Never saw this deer before that day. He just popped up one day looking around.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:43 am to WillFerrellisking
I have an opinion on the matter.
States banning them on public land makes sense....you shouldnt be able to leave personal items in the woods on public land.
Personally,
I have five cameras on our private land.
Pros:
1. instant gratification;
2. watching to see turkey poults, fawns, bucks grow antlers, seeing how many deer you have.
3. Watching food plot progress from 2 hours away.
Cons:
1. expensive to maintain....I've got over $2000 invested in FIVE cameras with solar/battery systems.
2. It takes an element of surprise and fun out of the hunts....encourages behaviors like staying in bed or hunting specific deer.
On private land, I shouldnt be regulated....but I can see both sides of the sporting element. When we get CWD in our area and feeders are banned, I might get rid of the cameras or just focus them all on food plot growth instead of feeders/trails
States banning them on public land makes sense....you shouldnt be able to leave personal items in the woods on public land.
Personally,
I have five cameras on our private land.
Pros:
1. instant gratification;
2. watching to see turkey poults, fawns, bucks grow antlers, seeing how many deer you have.
3. Watching food plot progress from 2 hours away.
Cons:
1. expensive to maintain....I've got over $2000 invested in FIVE cameras with solar/battery systems.
2. It takes an element of surprise and fun out of the hunts....encourages behaviors like staying in bed or hunting specific deer.
On private land, I shouldnt be regulated....but I can see both sides of the sporting element. When we get CWD in our area and feeders are banned, I might get rid of the cameras or just focus them all on food plot growth instead of feeders/trails
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:48 am to WillFerrellisking
Cams have many uses. I use them to help manage the bucks on our place and getting an idea of what’s out there. Makes it easy to put bucks on the don’t shoot or shoot list to improve the deer age on the places I hunt. It also helps if I have a borderline buck I can show to someone who knows more than I to get another opinion.
I’m running 13-15 cell cams currently on 3 different properties so they help me scout because I can’t sit to do deer counts or scout all three places. Not to mention when I’m at the places I’m doing a lot of work at each of them.
I’m running 13-15 cell cams currently on 3 different properties so they help me scout because I can’t sit to do deer counts or scout all three places. Not to mention when I’m at the places I’m doing a lot of work at each of them.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:59 am to Loup
Loup, I’m kinda like you when it comes to finding deer in general on public. (think you hunt my county in ms)
In my opinion there’s nothing more satisfying than taking a deer (any size) on public without the aid of plots, feeders or cameras. Yes our weapons have become more advanced but that’s for another post! haha
Guess I’m just griping on these podcast guest relying so heavily on cameras instead of feet on the ground techniques.
In my opinion there’s nothing more satisfying than taking a deer (any size) on public without the aid of plots, feeders or cameras. Yes our weapons have become more advanced but that’s for another post! haha
Guess I’m just griping on these podcast guest relying so heavily on cameras instead of feet on the ground techniques.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:09 am to WillFerrellisking
Using and sharing cameras has enabled our crew to all get on the same page as far as what we’re shooting, killed a long standing hesitancy to shoot enough does, and has decreased guys getting sensitive over “their” spot when they see that same buck has been to 3 others in the last day. It’s just fun to look at the pics and encourages a lot more conversation in our group.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:53 am to WillFerrellisking
Great for Hogs and probably recommended, i usually put a couple on trails, rub lines and scrapes when I’m bow hunting but I’m a big scent guy as well so the less I’m in/out of that area the better. Everyone has their own opinion of game cams which is fine, but my place as an age requirement not a horn limit and it’s helps looking at certain deer before seeing them on the hoof.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:21 pm to WillFerrellisking
We are pro camera. We have 23 cameras on 2650 acres right now and that'll increase to right at 50 in September. Really helps us identify the deer as to what we want to shoot and let walk from a management standpoint. What our real doe numbers are looking like and how many we need to take off. Allowing our smaller bucks to reach mature stage is important and it has paid of tremendously as we have gone from a place that had a single 140' deer killed since 1970's to now where we have taken 9- 140+" bucks and a 162". in the last 10 years.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:46 pm to WillFerrellisking
Feet on the ground means scent in the woods.
Cameras are a bit like running a trap line. Exciting to see what shows up.
Cameras are a bit like running a trap line. Exciting to see what shows up.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 3:29 pm to WillFerrellisking
Here’s my take on it.
I hunt a lease not a lot of reason to scout it, the deer pretty much follow the same patterns on the place as they did 20yrs ago. It’s amazing how many places I have hunted over the years and found sign only to find an old dilapidated stand in a tree or talked to someone who got out and them telling me of the “hot spot” that’s still a hot spot.
I use them to let others know what kind of deer we have on our property and to show them what is there, I also like to point out to them that on certain days when I’m in the woods and saw deer movement that the cameras saw none and how fast a spot that gets pressured can turn off.
I like them but even when I’m not getting pics I hunt the rut windows I know I should hunt regardless of cam activity.
I hunt a lease not a lot of reason to scout it, the deer pretty much follow the same patterns on the place as they did 20yrs ago. It’s amazing how many places I have hunted over the years and found sign only to find an old dilapidated stand in a tree or talked to someone who got out and them telling me of the “hot spot” that’s still a hot spot.
I use them to let others know what kind of deer we have on our property and to show them what is there, I also like to point out to them that on certain days when I’m in the woods and saw deer movement that the cameras saw none and how fast a spot that gets pressured can turn off.
I like them but even when I’m not getting pics I hunt the rut windows I know I should hunt regardless of cam activity.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 4:27 pm to One More Shot
quote:
We have 23 cameras on 2650 acres right now and that'll increase to right at 50 in September.
You are going to blind the deer!!!!
One things cameras have shown me is that our bucks are few and far between until around Halloween. At which point the bucks start showing up out of the blue. I wonder if a lot of that is related to people starting to roam the woods more and they come to a place where we try to not disturb them too much. Or maybe we have more hardwoods than others.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:07 pm to JDPndahizzy
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EF Hutton?
Please tell me Hutton is back! I miss the ole codger.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:50 pm to WillFerrellisking
Update:
I saw that Iowa has banned public land cameras altogether AND banned usage of cameras for "hunting purposes" on PRIVATE land.
Iowa has always been ultra conservative with their wildlife regulations...ex: they only allow deer hunting with a shotgun slug...they have an abundance of wildlife due to the enormous amount of agricultural acreage along with a lack of forests/trees....so the sight line is far and this adds a safety concern with rifles/scopes.
I saw that Iowa has banned public land cameras altogether AND banned usage of cameras for "hunting purposes" on PRIVATE land.
Iowa has always been ultra conservative with their wildlife regulations...ex: they only allow deer hunting with a shotgun slug...they have an abundance of wildlife due to the enormous amount of agricultural acreage along with a lack of forests/trees....so the sight line is far and this adds a safety concern with rifles/scopes.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:55 pm to The Levee
Yep I seen that and am happy to see a state have the balls to make them illegal!
I get what you fellas are saying about using them for “management” purposes (I use them on private) but in my opinion that’s not what hunting is about.
It’s kinda funny that “trophy” fishermen catch and release large bass while keeping a few young ones to eat but “trophy” hunters kill the big ones and leave the little ones go. Yes I know I’m comparing apples to oranges.
Honestly my whole fuss with cameras is not with everyday hunters like majority of us but the fellas that go on podcast and 1st thing they say is “I let my cameras dictate where I’m gonna hunt”. They are not hunters anymore, they are trying to become killers.
I get what you fellas are saying about using them for “management” purposes (I use them on private) but in my opinion that’s not what hunting is about.
It’s kinda funny that “trophy” fishermen catch and release large bass while keeping a few young ones to eat but “trophy” hunters kill the big ones and leave the little ones go. Yes I know I’m comparing apples to oranges.
Honestly my whole fuss with cameras is not with everyday hunters like majority of us but the fellas that go on podcast and 1st thing they say is “I let my cameras dictate where I’m gonna hunt”. They are not hunters anymore, they are trying to become killers.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 8:17 am to WillFerrellisking
quote:different species & different sexes when comparing trophy fish to trophy deer.
It’s kinda funny that “trophy” fishermen catch and release large bass while keeping a few young ones to eat but “trophy” hunters kill the big ones and leave the little ones go. Yes I know I’m comparing apples to oranges
Posted on 6/9/24 at 10:24 am to WillFerrellisking
quote:
Yep I seen that and am happy to see a state have the balls to make them illegal!
No offense, but I just don't understand folks who want more regulation.
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