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Spikes are intentional grounding (or even fumbles)
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:24 pm
They shouldn’t be legal
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:24 pm to theunknownknight
quote:the balls being thrown forward
or even fumbles
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:24 pm to theunknownknight
What’s your take on a QB sliding to give himself up?
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:25 pm to graychef
Should be a 15 yard penalty
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:25 pm to Pedro
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the balls being thrown forward
Depends on the spiking motions
If they just drop the ball down, it’s a fumble
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:26 pm to theunknownknight
They are a 'wink wink', 'nod nod'.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:26 pm to theunknownknight
How? It's a forward pass so can't be a fumble and there is a receiver in the area (TE or RB)...
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:28 pm to UltimateHog
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How? It's a forward pass so can't be a fumble and there is a receiver in the area (TE or RB)...
1. Flicking a ball 2 inches off the ground directly into the turf isn’t necessarily a “throwing motion”
2. Using your logic, intentional grounding would never be called because “players are in the area”
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:28 pm to UltimateHog
QBs have been called for intentional grounding if they backpedal before spiking it or if they spike it when the clock is not running.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:29 pm to theunknownknight
for mahomes they are illegal contact 5 yd penalty first down
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:29 pm to theunknownknight
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Item 3. Stopping Clock. A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if, immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball directly into the ground.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:30 pm to theunknownknight
There is a specific rule that allows them.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:31 pm to slackster
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There is a specific rule that allows them.
Hence why I said “should be”
I am aware of the rule, but the rule contradicts the rules
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:32 pm to theunknownknight
Or false starting on every snap.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:33 pm to theunknownknight
This is like arguing a FG holder should be down for taking a knee. Stupid
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:33 pm to theunknownknight
Achually....
ball carrier, in any location, commits intentional grounding when throwing a pass with no realistic chance of completion in order to avoid a sack; for instance, throwing the football down near himself. In particular, spiking the ball automatically results in a penalty of intentional grounding, regardless of any other factors. However, the rules explicitly allow the quarterback to spike the ball immediately after receiving it from the center to stop the clock[a] without using a time out.
ball carrier, in any location, commits intentional grounding when throwing a pass with no realistic chance of completion in order to avoid a sack; for instance, throwing the football down near himself. In particular, spiking the ball automatically results in a penalty of intentional grounding, regardless of any other factors. However, the rules explicitly allow the quarterback to spike the ball immediately after receiving it from the center to stop the clock[a] without using a time out.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:35 pm to theunknownknight
Some of you young kids may not remember a time where the QB would have to throw it OOB to stop the clock.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:35 pm to moneyg
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Some of you young kids may not remember a time where the QB would have to throw it OOB to stop the clock.
I remember
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:37 pm to theunknownknight
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1. Flicking a ball 2 inches off the ground directly into the turf isn’t necessarily a “throwing motion”
It's a throwing motion.
Do you know how close the RB is to the QB? Of course it's in the vicinity he's right behind him
Posted on 1/18/25 at 10:37 pm to moneyg
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Some of you young kids may not remember a time where the QB would have to throw it OOB to stop the clock.
I forgot about this. Did this change in late 80s?
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