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Screenshots of the pistol discharging in the agent's hand
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:23 pm
I took some screen shots in sequence of the weapon in question. I also linked the source video. Watched at full speed the first distinct shot lines up with the frames.
Note the slide position. The weapon has not been fired and the officer is carrying it by the grip. His fingers are not on the trigger.
slide position has changed and a cylindrical object (possibly a shell casing) appears moving at a downward trajectory
slide position has clearly changed indicating the weapon has fired. Cylindrical object continues at a downward trajectory.
Note the slide position. The weapon has not been fired and the officer is carrying it by the grip. His fingers are not on the trigger.
slide position has changed and a cylindrical object (possibly a shell casing) appears moving at a downward trajectory
slide position has clearly changed indicating the weapon has fired. Cylindrical object continues at a downward trajectory.
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:30 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The way the agent who disarmed him moved away, it seemed to me that the weapon discharged and the agent jumped a bit out of surprise.
Thats not even from seeing this OP.
Calling this a murder was always a stretch. I doubt that the agent who fired even realized his fellow agent had the weapon.
Thats not even from seeing this OP.
Calling this a murder was always a stretch. I doubt that the agent who fired even realized his fellow agent had the weapon.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:35 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
This is why I don’t trust anything but Glocks.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:39 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Not the clearest pictures, but it doesn't look like his finger is on the trigger. Looks like they are only around the grip. Leads to the question of how it fired.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:45 pm to Nurbis
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Not the clearest pictures, but it doesn't look like his finger is on the trigger. Looks like they are only around the grip. Leads to the question of how it fired.
Sig P320s have a documented history of accidental discharge without a trigger pull.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:46 pm to DByrd2
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I doubt that the agent who fired even realized his fellow agent had the weapon.
the agent who killed the guy was observing the pile most of the video. The agent in the slides comes in behind the pile and unholsters the weapon with his right hand. In the confusion I believe the agent mistook this to be the guy on the ground unholstering the weapon. He immediately pulls his pistol and appears to step in closer, presumably looking for the weapon. As he circles around, the weapon discharges, but he's still under the false assumption that the perp has it. He is now positioned behind the guy, but he cant see his hands because they are low and in front of the guy. The officer opens fire believing the guy to be in possession of the weapon that just fired.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:49 pm to International_Aggie
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Sig P320s have a documented history of accidental discharge without a trigger pull.
This would be the absolute worst timing in this history of 320 discharges, but it is possible.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:58 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The videos are shitty ,but that is my guess. In the fight there was a discharge which caused the shooting. When you phyically try to fight law enforcement and shite like this happens that is on the person. Like Renee Good, his stupidity cost him his life.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 1:46 am
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:19 am to International_Aggie
Yup. I did a search about the p320 and this firearm is very controversial. It does appear that the agent is only holding the pistol grip and no finger near the trigger. Now I understand the early joke/remark a poster made about the guy not shooting himself first for owning that model pistol.
Below is from Brave AI,
The SIG P320 has become notorious for unintended discharges, with numerous reports of the firearm firing without the trigger being pulled—particularly while holstered. These incidents have led to injuries, lawsuits, and the withdrawal of the pistol from service by several law enforcement agencies, including Houston PD, ICE, and the U.S. Air Force (after a fatal incident involving Airman Brayden Lovan in July 2025). Despite these concerns, SIG Sauer maintains that the P320 cannot fire without a trigger pull, attributing incidents to improper handling, incompatible holsters, or user error.
Below is from Brave AI,
The SIG P320 has become notorious for unintended discharges, with numerous reports of the firearm firing without the trigger being pulled—particularly while holstered. These incidents have led to injuries, lawsuits, and the withdrawal of the pistol from service by several law enforcement agencies, including Houston PD, ICE, and the U.S. Air Force (after a fatal incident involving Airman Brayden Lovan in July 2025). Despite these concerns, SIG Sauer maintains that the P320 cannot fire without a trigger pull, attributing incidents to improper handling, incompatible holsters, or user error.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:39 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Why? Why the frick would you bring a gun that is notorious for going off by itself, to a riot where you plan to engage and fight with law enforcement?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:06 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:
I took some screen shots in sequence of the weapon in question. I also linked the source video. Watched at full speed the first distinct shot lines up with the frames.
Great analysis - I watched this thing over and over in slow motion but was unfamiliar with the SIG pistol - and unfamiliar with auto pistols period - I don't use them at all - nothing but revolvers for me.
The accidental discharge explains my confusion over the first shot - it all makes sense to me now.
Thanks again.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:21 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:the more info we get, this is looking more and more to be the case
the agent who killed the guy was observing the pile most of the video. The agent in the slides comes in behind the pile and unholsters the weapon with his right hand. In the confusion I believe the agent mistook this to be the guy on the ground unholstering the weapon. He immediately pulls his pistol and appears to step in closer, presumably looking for the weapon. As he circles around, the weapon discharges, but he's still under the false assumption that the perp has it. He is now positioned behind the guy, but he cant see his hands because they are low and in front of the guy. The officer opens fire believing the guy to be in possession of the weapon that just fired.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:51 am to Plx1776
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Why? Why the frick would you bring a gun that is notorious for going off by itself, to a riot where you plan to engage and fight with law enforcement?
The 2A gives him the absolute right to carry. No one has to justify why they are carrying to anyone.
He wasn’t looking for a fight. It was these poorly trained ICE agents who approached him and escalated the situation.
People like Noem and Patel saying that this guy was looking to do bad things because he was carrying and had “a dozen” bullets in a loaded clip are so disgusting. Even the NRA condemns their rhetoric.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:16 am to VooDude
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This is why I don’t trust anything but Glocks
None of my Smith and Wessons have gone off.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:04 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Maybe Maybe Not, bottom line is the turd woke up that morning and made to decision to take a gun to obstruct and confront armed officers.
He should have put his arms up and told them he had a firearm.
The alternative is what he got
He should have put his arms up and told them he had a firearm.
The alternative is what he got
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:11 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Was that ICE officer Alec Baldwin?!
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:42 am to ruzil
First of all, I don’t even own an sig but the documented history is mostly BS. There’s no history of military issues, they were all falsifications. The issues were from local PD that again very likely could have been falsifications. Special forces almost unanimously still trust and use them.
I don’t disagree it could be the issue here. We have no idea. Jumping to conclusions before more is out is simply stupid.
Do we even know for a fact the shooting was in response to a discharge?
I don’t disagree it could be the issue here. We have no idea. Jumping to conclusions before more is out is simply stupid.
Do we even know for a fact the shooting was in response to a discharge?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:43 am to Nurbis
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:46 am to theronswanson
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Even the NRA condemns their rhetoric.
You'd be amazed as the gun control measures they've tacitly supported through the yeara.
What do FRC and GOA have to say about this?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:48 am to theronswanson
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He wasn’t looking for a fight. It was these poorly trained ICE agents who approached him and escalated the situation.
You are full of shite certainly. Not like there isn't video and images of him directly confronting agents and putting himself into the situation.
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