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I am an engineer
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:52 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:52 am
And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues. Any of you plant baws feel the same way?
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
Engineers make me laugh with their fancy degrees and big words. They couldn’t get their hands dirty, drink and drive after work, or have to pay child support like I do.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
Any of you plant baws feel the same way?"
The productive part of the job begins when the engineer(s) clear out
The productive part of the job begins when the engineer(s) clear out
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:55 am to RoosterCogburn585
Somewhere along the way engineers forgot that the simplest solution is probably the best solution.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:55 am to windmill
That's a pretty true statement!
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
Oh yeah? Well....
Not really. But I have seen Dino fossils in the wild....
Not really. But I have seen Dino fossils in the wild....
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:02 am to RoosterCogburn585
"An engineer is someone who learns more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing."
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:05 am to RoosterCogburn585
‘I am an engineer’
Oh, so you’ve learned to cut and paste and bill on time?
Oh, so you’ve learned to cut and paste and bill on time?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:05 am to RoosterCogburn585
yeah y'all gotta name every document a series of numbers and letters that make no sense then have a document register listing them with more reference numbers then a damn index so you're having to jump through hoops to figure out what 3 of the 3,757 specs included with the 2 ISOs are relevant
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:09 am to RoosterCogburn585
Hell of an engineer.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 7:10 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
Yep.
They think and imagine ideas that could possibly go wrong and put it in writing.
Doesn’t matter if nothing has ever happened in 50 years. Then they voice, well it COULD happen. (22-24 year olds that have never worked a real job before)
Well no shite, in some astronomically tiny percentage, some crazy almost impossible situation could occur and so it was important tp change something simple to unnecessary
You drive down the road everyda y several feet from other cars, you COULD get in a wreck everyday. That doesn’t need a meeting or a new procedure written
They think and imagine ideas that could possibly go wrong and put it in writing.
Doesn’t matter if nothing has ever happened in 50 years. Then they voice, well it COULD happen. (22-24 year olds that have never worked a real job before)
Well no shite, in some astronomically tiny percentage, some crazy almost impossible situation could occur and so it was important tp change something simple to unnecessary
You drive down the road everyda y several feet from other cars, you COULD get in a wreck everyday. That doesn’t need a meeting or a new procedure written
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 7:24 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
Prove it. Being an engineer you must have at least have some background in general automotive knowledge, can you tell me what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
Do you hold an engineering degree or are you the fix-it guy referred to as an engineer?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:14 am to Loup
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yeah y'all gotta name every document a series of numbers and letters that make no sense then have a document register listing them with more reference numbers then a damn index so you're having to jump through hoops to figure out what 3 of the 3,757 specs included with the 2 ISOs are relevant
This guy’s seen some bid packages.
My favorite is when they have a group of 5+ people spending 2+ months compiling every specification ever written that could possibly be related to those 2 ISOs, but then they don’t fill in any of the blanks on the one datasheet that would actually tell you what they want.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:16 am to The Mick
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Do you hold an engineering degree or are you the fix-it guy referred to as an engineer?
Or does he have to clear out all the hobos, vagrants, and Weary Willies so he can leave on time to be able to come to a complete stop at a crossing during rush hour traffic?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
Yes.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
What kind of engineer? Structural by chance?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:18 am to RoosterCogburn585
A 60 year old plant baw knows his shite more than a 30 year old engineer.
A 30 year old engineer knows more than a 30 year old plant baw.
There's a curve with intersecting lines.
I've been in a room with experienced engineers and they get in arguments about the best solution and they're all right. The problem is at a certain age you've done so much, and you've seen so much crap that multiple solutions pop into place - but these solutions have a ripple effect across the plant.
A 30 year old engineer knows more than a 30 year old plant baw.
There's a curve with intersecting lines.
I've been in a room with experienced engineers and they get in arguments about the best solution and they're all right. The problem is at a certain age you've done so much, and you've seen so much crap that multiple solutions pop into place - but these solutions have a ripple effect across the plant.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:21 am to lostinbr
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This guy’s seen some bid packages.
one or two
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, but then they don’t fill in any of the blanks on the one datasheet that would actually tell you what they want.
I'm going to have an aneurysm this morning. Currently going through a 900 pg PDF (they scanned hard copies into one file so it isn't easily searchable) to find specs for a 10 ISO project. I'll probably only need 20 pages of the file.
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My favorite is when they have a group of 5+ people spending 2+ months compiling every specification ever written that could possibly be related to those 2 ISOs
Yeah and the ISOs were stamped "IFC" during the Biden admin but now they want pricing 4 hours after they send them in and project completion in 1 to 2 business days because they were having teams meetings every 15 minutes with their engineers in India. They are also using purchasing agents as your POC who don't know their arse from their elbow so any question you have gets routed through 7 different people until 6 days later it lands on one who actually knows what is going on with the project. Or they'll exclude something in their SOW document and tell you your bid is disqualified because you excluded that item.
Sorry for the rant. It's been one of those weeks.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 7:23 am to Zap Rowsdower
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Prove it. Being an engineer you must have at least have some background in general automotive knowledge, can you tell me what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
That's a bullshite question
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