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Those not in favor of finishing Iran for good
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:00 pm
Do you understand that they will forever hold the straight of Hormuz as leverage and at a moment’s notice your gas prices can and will go up multiple times in the future at the drop of a hat?
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:05 pm to Stidham8
quote:Does Oman have any say in this because they are on the other coastline?
Do you understand that they will forever hold the straight of Hormuz as leverage and at a moment’s notice your gas prices can and will go up multiple times in the future at the drop of a hat?
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:05 pm to Stidham8
Iran never used the Strait as leverage until Israel and Trump forced them to.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:05 pm to Stidham8
They are basically asking the US to leave the Middle East. Which we won’t do because of the petrodollar. The US unfortunately is in a tough spot. Either go full out war or have the dollar collapse
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:10 pm to Stidham8
quote:What does this mean specifically?
finishing Iran for good
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:11 pm to Stidham8
Iran is letting many ships go through the straight. Countries are just doing deals with Iran directly and bypassing the US/Trump.
And they are bypassing the dollar as well, taking payments in Chinese yuan.
And they are bypassing the dollar as well, taking payments in Chinese yuan.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:12 pm to Pragmatist2025
quote:
What does this mean specifically?
Sounds like something a pragmatist would ask
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:12 pm to sorantable
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Iran never used the Strait as leverage until Israel and Trump forced them to.
Holy unlikely dogfaceponyman supporter
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:14 pm to GeauxZone90
They are basically asking the US Military to leave the Middle East?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:15 pm to Stidham8
quote:
Do you understand that they will forever hold the straight of Hormuz as leverage and at a moment’s notice your gas prices can and will go up multiple times in the future at the drop of a hat?
Maybe.
But what I also realize is that in order to ensure the next regime is friendly to America, American taxpayers are going to be on the hook for the rebuild. Otherwise, it's just gonna be "death to America" all over again, and probably worse.
You guys who are giddy about blowing up bridges and power plants..let's see how you feel when you get the bill for the rebuild.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:17 pm to sorantable
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Iran never used the Strait as leverage until Israel and Trump forced them to.
might wanna look up the tanker wars of 1987 an 1988
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:19 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You guys who are giddy about blowing up bridges and power plants..let's see how you feel when you get the bill for the rebuild
There's a lot of oil under Iran.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:19 pm to Powerman
quote:Well…that phrase is very non-specific, yes?
Sounds like something a pragmatist would ask
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:20 pm to sorantable
quote:
Iran never used the Strait as leverage until Israel and Trump forced them to.
Israel and Trump forced them to develop a nuclear program and ballistic missile program?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:20 pm to choupiquesushi
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might wanna look up the tanker wars of 1987 an 1988
Good point
But it's not something that is a commonly recurring event
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Maybe. But what I also realize is that in order to ensure the next regime is friendly to America, American taxpayers are going to be on the hook for the rebuild. Otherwise, it's just gonna be "death to America" all over again, and probably worse. You guys who are giddy about blowing up bridges and power plants..let's see how you feel when you get the bill for the rebuild.
I’d rather deal with it now than for another 50 years of conflict that sparks every few years. It is not sustainable long term.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:23 pm to Pragmatist2025
quote:
Well…that phrase is very non-specific, yes?
Agreed and you're right to ask for clarity
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:23 pm to sorantable
1987-1988 during the tanker war Iran mined the straits of Hormuz.
They have threatened to close it numerous times.
They have threatened to close it numerous times.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:42 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
might wanna look up the tanker wars of 1987 an 1988
Okay, one time nearly 40 years ago?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:43 pm to Stidham8
quote:They have the geographical advantage.
Do you understand that they will forever hold the straight of Hormuz as leverage and at a moment’s notice your gas prices can and will go up multiple times in the future at the drop of a hat?
Any “deal” must recognize they have the ability, and I argue the right, to control it. It’s not fair, but they are in position for this.
America has several advantages that are tied to nothing else but our geography.
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