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The RHCP doc on netflix basically ignores John Frusciante

Posted on 4/9/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 12:06 pm
Do you Hillel Slovak was that much better?

I understand he was the initial explorer of their funk-punk sound... but I've always thought Frusciante was special and I don't think Slovak could've created anything close.
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Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 12:20 pm to
The title of the documentary may give you a clue as to why.

The Rise of the Red Hot Chili Peppers: Our Brother, Hillel


quote:

Do you Hillel Slovak was that much better?

Better? no.
Preference? yes.
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Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 12:27 pm to
Slovak was revolutionary. John F even says in the fricking documentary that he was just trying to “play like Hillel”

This thread is inane
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 12:55 pm to
alright I'll delete it
Posted by slinger1317
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:09 pm to
I may be in the minority but I find the RHCP catalog post-Hillel much better than with him.

I've always heard the other members talk about him, people post about him etc, but with this doc I was able to actually see who he was and what/how he played. He was good, and maybe it was just the stage of the career they were in at that time, but they are so much better from Blood Sugar forward.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:15 pm to
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I've always thought Frusciante was special


Agree.



Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:21 pm to
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The RHCP doc on netflix basically ignores John Frusciante


Yeah, and they didn't even say a single word about klinghoffer what's up with that!??

it's almost like you missed the whole entire purpose of why the doc was even created

Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:21 pm to
weirdly similar to cat stevens
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Yeah, and they didn't even say a single word about klinghoffer what's up with that!??

it's almost like you missed the whole entire purpose of why the doc was even created


Don't worry man I already RA'd for this to be removed.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:27 pm to
I used to play with Sherman one of their super early guitarists. Did it mention him at all?
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 2:05 pm to
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I may be in the minority but I find the RHCP catalog post-Hillel much better than with him.


It's because their sound completely changed. John says in the documentary that people say that he started playing differently for BSSM, but he says he was really just playing like what he thought Hillel would play like. I don't really understand this because the pre-Frusciante albums are nothing like the ones with him, especially BSSM onward. Maybe Frusciante is just trying to be nice andhonor Hillel, but the man has his own style, and maybe what he's saying is that he imagines that Hillel would have gone in the same direction as he did in his guitar style and songwriting.
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 2:17 pm to
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weirdly similar to cat stevens


Frusciante's solo stuff is really awesome if you like his voice. It seems that people either love or hate it, but I like his voice a lot.

Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 2:26 pm to
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It's because their sound completely changed. John says n the documentary that people say that he started playing differently for BSSM, but he says he was really just playing like what he thought Hillel would play like. I don't really understand this because the pre-Frusciante albums are nothing like the ones with him, especially BSSM onward. Maybe Frusciante is just trying to be nice an honor Hillel, but the man has his own style, and maybe what he's saying is that he imagines that Hillel would have gone in the same direction as he did in his guitar style and songwriting.


Right. When he said that, it seemed contrived to honor Hillel bc they sound nothing alike.

I just didn't feel like arguing
Posted by MaxxPain2
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:11 pm to
doesn't even mention Chad Smith not once
Posted by genro
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:15 pm to
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John F even says in the fricking documentary that he was just trying to “play like Hillel”
DAMN I would’ve totally expected him to say he’s way better than their beloved dead bandmate he replaced
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:26 pm to
Noticed that too
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

I may be in the minority but I find the RHCP catalog post-Hillel much better than with him.


Nope. Because I agree. I think the majority here will.

quote:

The title of the documentary may give you a clue as to why.

The Rise of the Red Hot Chili Peppers: Our Brother, Hillel


Was gonna say this too.
Posted by crotiger0307
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:47 am to
Maybe it’s just me, but Frusciante coming in at the very tail end and no mention of Chad Smith seems to have left the door open for a continuation at some point..
Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Maybe it’s just me, but Frusciante coming in at the very tail end and no mention of Chad Smith seems to have left the door open for a continuation at some point..



Doubt it. This was all done by HS's brother. He apparently did some really weird stuff in promoting it and pissed the band off. I think Flea even said something about it. They've kinda distanced themselves from it.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 3:55 pm to
No, Slovak wasn't as good as Frusciante.
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