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Probably brought up a million times here, but.....
Posted on 10/10/10 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 10/10/10 at 8:10 pm
How does a record breaking offense deteriorate into an anemic offense so quickly with basically the same personnel in place?
Is it as simple as they've being diagnosed by the rest of the league?
Is it as simple as they've being diagnosed by the rest of the league?
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Posted on 10/10/10 at 8:11 pm to Scoop
teams and defenses adapt;
we saw it at times last year when our offense got inconsistent
we saw it at times last year when our offense got inconsistent
Posted on 10/10/10 at 8:51 pm to Scoop
quote:
the same personnel in place
No Reggie. No Pierre. Makes things easier for opposing D.
After winning a SB, you are a marked team. Every team we play has had us circled on their schedule since before the season started. We get their A game every week.
Posted on 10/10/10 at 9:23 pm to Douglas Quaid
quote:
No Reggie. No Pierre. Makes things easier for opposing D. After winning a SB, you are a marked team. Every team we play has had us circled on their schedule since before the season started. We get their A game every week.
exactly...
we will be more than fine once we get at least one of them back.... lots of new personnel that Drew and Payton are not too comfortable with, but have to play with because of injuries.... with all the "what the hell" posts, you'd think we were 1-4 instead of 3-2.... my god people, get a grip, quick...
Posted on 10/10/10 at 9:26 pm to Scoop
Oline playing bad
teams adapting
Brees knee Injury slowing him a tad
No reggie or Pierre
DROPS
teams adapting
Brees knee Injury slowing him a tad
No reggie or Pierre
DROPS
Posted on 10/11/10 at 1:16 am to Scoop
quote:
Is it as simple as they've being diagnosed by the rest of the league?
I don't have a clue as to why it's happening, but I don't think this is why, though I could be wrong.
Last season was our 4th year under Payton/Brees's offense and we did just fine. 4 years is a long time for teams to figure out our offense and they still hadn't.
This year, i have no idea, lol.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 1:17 am to Douglas Quaid
quote:
After winning a SB, you are a marked team. Every team we play has had us circled on their schedule since before the season started. We get their A game every week.
I completely disagree with this.
I believe that is one of those media stereotypes the masses buy into.
I don't believe for one second that teams are trying any harder or focusing any more on beating us this year than they did last year.
I just think that it's hard to be good in the NFL, and it's really hard to stay good.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 1:29 am to shel311
I've noticed this with Colston and most of the other WR's, it looks like they are expecting these passes to land in their hands. They aren't going for these balls in the air, they are waiting for it and it is causing drops. We don't have the urgency to make plays, it looks like we are expecting big plays to just happen. Recipe for disaster IMO
Posted on 10/11/10 at 6:49 am to purplepylon
Madden curse upon Drew 
Posted on 10/11/10 at 7:52 am to shel311
quote:
I completely disagree with this.
Well then you're wrong...
You really don't think that a team gets a little more fired up when playing a division foe or highly respected/ranked team as opposed to say...Buffalo or Detroit(old Detroit)? You don't believe that they give a little extra effort or play with a little more intensity when playing the reigning Super Bowl champs?
If anything, I say that the Saints may have lost some of their "fire" so far this year...combine that with getting the best of each team we play and a few unlucky breaks and you have a 3-2 team. We could just as easily be 5-0 as we could be 1-4.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 8:28 am to Scoop
quote:
the same personnel in place?
Reggie Bush, the Saints' multi-dimensional running back/receiver, who earns $8M a year, broke his leg ag. the Niners but fortunately, will be back in the lineup later in the season. Pierre Thomas, the other talented Saints' running back, is injured as well, and is expected back in the lineup in the future. Their replacements are an undrafted free agent and a free agent no other team wanted. I suggest you consider the remote possibility that their absence from the lineup at present might, just might, affect the Saints' offensive performance.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 9:03 am to shel311
quote:Said this several times yesterday. It's not as if the Saints had the no. 1 offense for one year. They've been at the top now for a while, the only difference was the addition of a reliable running game which should make it harder, not easier, to "figure out" the Saints offense.
4 years is a long time for teams to figure out our offense and they still hadn't.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 9:07 am to purplepylon
quote:Brees is the best at putting passes into tight spots, but at the same time the Saints typically find ways to break coverages and get people wide open (e.g., Shockey's TD catch).
I've noticed this with Colston and most of the other WR's, it looks like they are expecting these passes to land in their hands. They aren't going for these balls in the air, they are waiting for it and it is causing drops. We don't have the urgency to make plays, it looks like we are expecting big plays to just happen. Recipe for disaster IMO
I have not seen a lot of WRs create space this year. We don't have a lot of speed with our no. 1 (Colston) and 2 (Moore) receivers so they can get separation and make the throws a bit easier.
Another big issue is protection. Brees has been hit as much this year as all of last season, or at least it seems that way. He just does not look comfortable. Even the Meachem TD he was under much duress.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 9:17 am to Ice Cold
The O-Line is killing the offense. J Evans should start thinking about giving some money back if he is going to continue to play the way he has. the fumble by Betts can be patially attributed to him whiffing on his man. Every time the Saints get in the Red Zone, you can expect a lineman to miss a block causing a negative play.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 9:40 am to RPC4LSU
In addition to all the things people have said, you also have to say "this is the NFL." This is partly what makes this league so much fun.
Look at Indy. They look pretty poor. 3-2. Struggle to beat KC at home. Yes, KC is much better. That plays to my point. They are much improved.
Look at Indy. They look pretty poor. 3-2. Struggle to beat KC at home. Yes, KC is much better. That plays to my point. They are much improved.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 9:43 am to Scoop
Reggie Bush, which people kept sayin was worthless, now you see the effect. SP cannot call the type shite he likes to call with Reggie in the game, and not only that defenses FEAR Bush which leaves Brees free to do his thing!
and the the OLine is blockin like shite this year!
and the the OLine is blockin like shite this year!
This post was edited on 10/11/10 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/11/10 at 11:31 am to Scoop
Its been said it takes a special group of people to make a run to the Super Bowl. Maybe last years mentality has worn off as well as other teams being better prepared for us???
Posted on 10/11/10 at 11:38 am to Scoop
They have been #1 three of the last four years.
This year, sloppy play on OLine, missing reggie and PT, dropped passes by receivers.,
This year, sloppy play on OLine, missing reggie and PT, dropped passes by receivers.,
Posted on 10/11/10 at 11:58 am to Scoop
Fast starts fueled the defense which got the ball back on short fields and further fueled the offense. The scoring snowballs for this team once they get it going but they just have been off this season. Injuries are part of it but inopportune drops and the ball just not bouncing our way isn't helping either.
Posted on 10/11/10 at 4:20 pm to TigerinATL
Madden curse maybe, Drew needs to rub my sons head and say a prayer. He broke the Saints curse, the Red Socks curse, the LSU curse, and the the Cubs curse kinda, (went to playoffs the year he went to game) His first Major league baseball was in Boston Red Socks in 2004, first Minor League was 2004 Baybears (southern League Champions). First college game LSU (2003) First Pro football last year, Saints preseason and Giants. (I saved him.) I swear he is a damn luck dragon. Madden curse should be no problem.
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