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If Miles leaves, 14 coaches as qualified if not more than he WAS

Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:15 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:15 pm
This post is from late September 2010 so the numbers are not accurate through the entire season, but close enough to get the point:

Paraphrasing, I was asked this question (PHXTigers) in a previous thread, but I did wayyyy to much F-ing research to have it die as a simple reply, so here is a new thread:

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What other coaches out there would guarantee a better winning percentage than Miles has had since he has been here?

Do not include coordinators who have never been a head coach in college and what not.




Well guarantee is a little strong. You certainly cannot guarantee Miles is going to win 55 of his next 70 games here at LSU, much less another coach.

That being said, we certainly did not hire Miles knowing what he was going to do here, so we have to base the search for a candidate based on what Miles was able to prove BEFORE he took over arguably the most talented team in the country without a coach in 2005.

Before coming to LSU, Miles was 28-21 at Oklahoma State. I guess we should start the search there for coaches who won 57% of their games the last 4 or so years at a school. Also, the guy behind Miles was 30-38 (44%), so we need to find coaches who have improved the winning percentage of their predecessor by +12-13% or more.

Here are 14 guys as much if not more and sometimes much more qualified now than Les was in 2005. Let's see:

Bo Pelini (Nebraska): 24-8 (75%) since 2008, Nebraska won 55% of its games from 2004-2007. +20%

Paul Johnson (GT) : 22-9 (71%) since 2008, Ga Tech won 57% of its games from 2002-2007. +14%

Jim Grobe (WF) : 61-53 (54%) since 2001, WF won 29% of its games from 1993-2000. Grobe is 33-19 (63%) from 2006-2009. Conservatively +25%

Turner Gill (Buffalo, now Kansas): 20-30 (40%) since 2006, Buffalo won only 19 games (17%) from 1996-2005. +23%

Todd Graham (Tulsa): 21-7 (75%) since 2007, Tulsa won 57% of its games from 2003-2006. +18%

Butch Jones (CMU, now Cinci): 27-13 (68%) since 2007, CMU won 54% of their games from 2003-2006. +14%

Mark Dantonio (Mich St): 25-17 (60%) since 2007, Mich St won 46% from 2000-2006. +14%

Gary Patterson (TCU): 88-28 (76%) since 2000, TCU won 49% of its games from 1992-1999. +27% (How this guy is not already a HC at a big time BCS school is completely beyond me)

June Jones (SMU): 38% since 2008, SMU won 26% of its games from 2002 to 2007. +12%

Skip Holtz (ECU, now USF): 38-27 (58%) since 2005, ECU won 27% of its games from 2001-2004. +31%

Art Briles (Baylor): 11-17 (39%) since 2008, Baylor won 26% of its games from 2002-2007. +13%

Greg Schiano (Rutgers): 57-55 (51%) since 2001, Rutgers won 20% of its games from 1996-2000. +31%

Troy Calhoun (Air Force): 28-15 (65%) since 2007, Air Force won 43% of its games from 2003-2006. +22%

Kevin Sumlin (Houston): 20-9 (69%) since 2008, Houston won 55% of its games from 2003-2007. +14%



Others like Kyle Whittingham, Chris Peterson, and Chip Kelly have not necessarily improved their teams, but have excelled in upholding the winning ways into which they walked.

Note: Since Miles has left, Oklahoma State has slightly improved to 58% winning percentage.

Am I missing any other HCs that are not already at big time programs (Saban, Meyer, etc)?

Thoughts on these candidates?
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 7:20 pm
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10605 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:16 pm to
I agree. Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win. AS long as our recruits stay.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10901 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:16 pm to
Not this shite again
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:19 pm to
Some of those coaches would be awful hires.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30432 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:19 pm to
Skip Holts

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91472 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Not this shite again


? Who has broken it down like this?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91472 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Some of those coaches would be awful hires.


You would have hated Miles in 2005 as well I imagine.
Posted by nuke
Member since Dec 2010
100 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:21 pm to
Honest question.. Why would you guys want Pelini or Gruden? There seem to be better coaches out there.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 7:24 pm
Posted by homeyhomes
Member since Nov 2005
1314 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:23 pm to
Mark dantonio almost died this year. Probably not a good long term hire
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5577 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win. AS long as our recruits stay.


but can they maintain it at the same level once Miles' recruits are gone? there is more than x's and o's to being a good coach.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:26 pm to
Slackster I appreciate your work on these guys but I literally hate all of them except Patterson. I guess we are not looking to rebuild but keep what CLM has done moving forward. That said you are one of the best go to guys usually as far as gathering data.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21964 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win.


Paul Johnson needs to be removed from any and all lists. I don't care how succesful he's been at Ga Tech...LSU isn't running the triple option.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10901 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Who has broken it down like this?


Don't know but it looks damn familiar......and since you started your post with...
This post is from late September 2010 so the numbers are not accurate through the entire season, but close enough to get the point

You tell me
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78720 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:37 pm to
Nice approach. I appreciate it. GTech coach is a non-starter though with his offensive scheme. I wonder if Grobe hasn't lost what luster he had. Same with Schiano.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49279 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:54 pm to
Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. From 1999-2005, Northwestern was 37-46 for a .445 winning percentage. Since 2006, Fitzgerald is 33-29 (24-15 in the last three years) for a winning percentage of .532.

Plus, he plays in a major conference unlike most of the other coaches.

IMO, other than Patterson, he's the best candidate listed.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2839 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:59 pm to
Best post of the day. I'm glad I hit refresh one more time.
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