- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message

If Miles leaves, 14 coaches as qualified if not more than he WAS
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:15 pm
This post is from late September 2010 so the numbers are not accurate through the entire season, but close enough to get the point:
Paraphrasing, I was asked this question (PHXTigers) in a previous thread, but I did wayyyy to much F-ing research to have it die as a simple reply, so here is a new thread:
Well guarantee is a little strong. You certainly cannot guarantee Miles is going to win 55 of his next 70 games here at LSU, much less another coach.
That being said, we certainly did not hire Miles knowing what he was going to do here, so we have to base the search for a candidate based on what Miles was able to prove BEFORE he took over arguably the most talented team in the country without a coach in 2005.
Before coming to LSU, Miles was 28-21 at Oklahoma State. I guess we should start the search there for coaches who won 57% of their games the last 4 or so years at a school. Also, the guy behind Miles was 30-38 (44%), so we need to find coaches who have improved the winning percentage of their predecessor by +12-13% or more.
Here are 14 guys as much if not more and sometimes much more qualified now than Les was in 2005. Let's see:
Bo Pelini (Nebraska): 24-8 (75%) since 2008, Nebraska won 55% of its games from 2004-2007. +20%
Paul Johnson (GT) : 22-9 (71%) since 2008, Ga Tech won 57% of its games from 2002-2007. +14%
Jim Grobe (WF) : 61-53 (54%) since 2001, WF won 29% of its games from 1993-2000. Grobe is 33-19 (63%) from 2006-2009. Conservatively +25%
Turner Gill (Buffalo, now Kansas): 20-30 (40%) since 2006, Buffalo won only 19 games (17%) from 1996-2005. +23%
Todd Graham (Tulsa): 21-7 (75%) since 2007, Tulsa won 57% of its games from 2003-2006. +18%
Butch Jones (CMU, now Cinci): 27-13 (68%) since 2007, CMU won 54% of their games from 2003-2006. +14%
Mark Dantonio (Mich St): 25-17 (60%) since 2007, Mich St won 46% from 2000-2006. +14%
Gary Patterson (TCU): 88-28 (76%) since 2000, TCU won 49% of its games from 1992-1999. +27% (How this guy is not already a HC at a big time BCS school is completely beyond me)
June Jones (SMU): 38% since 2008, SMU won 26% of its games from 2002 to 2007. +12%
Skip Holtz (ECU, now USF): 38-27 (58%) since 2005, ECU won 27% of its games from 2001-2004. +31%
Art Briles (Baylor): 11-17 (39%) since 2008, Baylor won 26% of its games from 2002-2007. +13%
Greg Schiano (Rutgers): 57-55 (51%) since 2001, Rutgers won 20% of its games from 1996-2000. +31%
Troy Calhoun (Air Force): 28-15 (65%) since 2007, Air Force won 43% of its games from 2003-2006. +22%
Kevin Sumlin (Houston): 20-9 (69%) since 2008, Houston won 55% of its games from 2003-2007. +14%
Others like Kyle Whittingham, Chris Peterson, and Chip Kelly have not necessarily improved their teams, but have excelled in upholding the winning ways into which they walked.
Note: Since Miles has left, Oklahoma State has slightly improved to 58% winning percentage.
Am I missing any other HCs that are not already at big time programs (Saban, Meyer, etc)?
Thoughts on these candidates?
Paraphrasing, I was asked this question (PHXTigers) in a previous thread, but I did wayyyy to much F-ing research to have it die as a simple reply, so here is a new thread:
quote:
What other coaches out there would guarantee a better winning percentage than Miles has had since he has been here?
Do not include coordinators who have never been a head coach in college and what not.
Well guarantee is a little strong. You certainly cannot guarantee Miles is going to win 55 of his next 70 games here at LSU, much less another coach.
That being said, we certainly did not hire Miles knowing what he was going to do here, so we have to base the search for a candidate based on what Miles was able to prove BEFORE he took over arguably the most talented team in the country without a coach in 2005.
Before coming to LSU, Miles was 28-21 at Oklahoma State. I guess we should start the search there for coaches who won 57% of their games the last 4 or so years at a school. Also, the guy behind Miles was 30-38 (44%), so we need to find coaches who have improved the winning percentage of their predecessor by +12-13% or more.
Here are 14 guys as much if not more and sometimes much more qualified now than Les was in 2005. Let's see:
Bo Pelini (Nebraska): 24-8 (75%) since 2008, Nebraska won 55% of its games from 2004-2007. +20%
Paul Johnson (GT) : 22-9 (71%) since 2008, Ga Tech won 57% of its games from 2002-2007. +14%
Jim Grobe (WF) : 61-53 (54%) since 2001, WF won 29% of its games from 1993-2000. Grobe is 33-19 (63%) from 2006-2009. Conservatively +25%
Turner Gill (Buffalo, now Kansas): 20-30 (40%) since 2006, Buffalo won only 19 games (17%) from 1996-2005. +23%
Todd Graham (Tulsa): 21-7 (75%) since 2007, Tulsa won 57% of its games from 2003-2006. +18%
Butch Jones (CMU, now Cinci): 27-13 (68%) since 2007, CMU won 54% of their games from 2003-2006. +14%
Mark Dantonio (Mich St): 25-17 (60%) since 2007, Mich St won 46% from 2000-2006. +14%
Gary Patterson (TCU): 88-28 (76%) since 2000, TCU won 49% of its games from 1992-1999. +27% (How this guy is not already a HC at a big time BCS school is completely beyond me)
June Jones (SMU): 38% since 2008, SMU won 26% of its games from 2002 to 2007. +12%
Skip Holtz (ECU, now USF): 38-27 (58%) since 2005, ECU won 27% of its games from 2001-2004. +31%
Art Briles (Baylor): 11-17 (39%) since 2008, Baylor won 26% of its games from 2002-2007. +13%
Greg Schiano (Rutgers): 57-55 (51%) since 2001, Rutgers won 20% of its games from 1996-2000. +31%
Troy Calhoun (Air Force): 28-15 (65%) since 2007, Air Force won 43% of its games from 2003-2006. +22%
Kevin Sumlin (Houston): 20-9 (69%) since 2008, Houston won 55% of its games from 2003-2007. +14%
Others like Kyle Whittingham, Chris Peterson, and Chip Kelly have not necessarily improved their teams, but have excelled in upholding the winning ways into which they walked.
Note: Since Miles has left, Oklahoma State has slightly improved to 58% winning percentage.
Am I missing any other HCs that are not already at big time programs (Saban, Meyer, etc)?
Thoughts on these candidates?
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:16 pm to slackster
I agree. Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win. AS long as our recruits stay.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:19 pm to slackster
Some of those coaches would be awful hires.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:19 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:
Not this shite again
? Who has broken it down like this?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:20 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
Some of those coaches would be awful hires.
You would have hated Miles in 2005 as well I imagine.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:21 pm to slackster
Honest question.. Why would you guys want Pelini or Gruden? There seem to be better coaches out there.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:23 pm to slackster
Mark dantonio almost died this year. Probably not a good long term hire
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:24 pm to xXLSUXx
quote:
Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win. AS long as our recruits stay.
but can they maintain it at the same level once Miles' recruits are gone? there is more than x's and o's to being a good coach.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:26 pm to slackster
Slackster I appreciate your work on these guys but I literally hate all of them except Patterson. I guess we are not looking to rebuild but keep what CLM has done moving forward. That said you are one of the best go to guys usually as far as gathering data. 
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:29 pm to xXLSUXx
quote:
Any of those coaches would be able to come in and win.
Paul Johnson needs to be removed from any and all lists. I don't care how succesful he's been at Ga Tech...LSU isn't running the triple option.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:33 pm to slackster
quote:
Who has broken it down like this?
Don't know but it looks damn familiar......and since you started your post with...
This post is from late September 2010 so the numbers are not accurate through the entire season, but close enough to get the point
You tell me
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:37 pm to slackster
Nice approach. I appreciate it. GTech coach is a non-starter though with his offensive scheme. I wonder if Grobe hasn't lost what luster he had. Same with Schiano.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:54 pm to slackster
Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. From 1999-2005, Northwestern was 37-46 for a .445 winning percentage. Since 2006, Fitzgerald is 33-29 (24-15 in the last three years) for a winning percentage of .532.
Plus, he plays in a major conference unlike most of the other coaches.
IMO, other than Patterson, he's the best candidate listed.
Plus, he plays in a major conference unlike most of the other coaches.
IMO, other than Patterson, he's the best candidate listed.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:59 pm to Jake88
Best post of the day. I'm glad I hit refresh one more time.
Popular
Back to top
6









