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Yes, the Greenies are responsible for the Texas mess
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:47 am
Had a friend who is in the industry finally explain the natural gas problems to me. It seems that the pumps on gas lines used to always be fuel fired. That is to say that ran on motors that were fueled by the natural gas in the lines themselves. So, as long as there was any gas in those lines, the pumps would run. It was virtually foolproof. Well, the AOCs of the world bitched about all those pumps emitting greenhouse gases so many of them were switched to electric booster pumps that have to get their power off the grid. They went from a self contained bombproof system to a fragile one that relies on multiple outside factors. If anything fails in that chain, down go the pumps and down goes your gas delivery.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:50 am to Cossatotjoe
Federal regulations are the problem.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:50 am to Cossatotjoe
But we were told it was lack of federal oversight and free market entergy companies cutting corners?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:52 am to Cossatotjoe
Happened in Louisiana as well in many different forms. Gas handling facilities had to decomission their natural gas engine powered generators and compressors due to emissions laws and replace them with electric motors and purchase power. Orders of magnitude lower reliability. So now you are relying on purchase power to fractionate raw gas and transfer/store it as well rather than using the gas itself.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:52 am to WaWaWeeWa
I thought it was because a Republican thought about going on vacation.
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:56 am to WaWaWeeWa
25% of the Energy in Texas is produced by Wind/Solar, the remaining Energy in Texas is produced by fossil fuels.
Texas was warned about this in 2011 after some rolling blackouts.
Texas failed to winterize their equipment and it affected us tremendously.
Iowa, South Dakota and Canada all use Wind/Solar powered energy and they don't have this problem.
The energy was deregulated in the 90's, to avoid federal regulations. That decision has affected Texans today.
Texas was warned about this in 2011 after some rolling blackouts.
Texas failed to winterize their equipment and it affected us tremendously.
Iowa, South Dakota and Canada all use Wind/Solar powered energy and they don't have this problem.
The energy was deregulated in the 90's, to avoid federal regulations. That decision has affected Texans today.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:59 am to LaTexSaint
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25% of the Energy in Texas is produced by Wind/Solar, the remaining Energy in Texas is produced by fossil fuels.
Texas was warned about this in 2011 after some rolling blackouts.
Texas failed to winterize their equipment and it affected us tremendously.
Iowa, South Dakota and Canada all use Wind/Solar powered energy and they don't have this problem.
The energy was deregulated in the 90's, to avoid federal regulations. That decision has affected Texans today.
Get out of here with that weak assed bullshite. Nobody is buying it. STFU.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:00 am to Cossatotjoe
It's also a way for them to make more money by charging us higher utility bills and since electric power plants also use natural gas, the electric bill will go up.
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Natural gas and propane prices have skyrocketed, in some cases as much as 200 times higher than average. Right now utility companies are the ones paying those premiums, but much of that likely will work its way back to consumers.
Besides the impact on households, the cold is wreaking havoc on the energy industry itself. U.S. oil production has dropped by well over a million barrels a day, helping U.S. crude prices trade above $60 a barrel for the first time in more than year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/us-power-crisis-leaves-millions-cold-dark-as-blackouts-expand/2021/02/15/26597b8e-6fec-11eb-8651-6d3091eac63f_story.html
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Natural gas and propane prices have skyrocketed, in some cases as much as 200 times higher than average. Right now utility companies are the ones paying those premiums, but much of that likely will work its way back to consumers.
Besides the impact on households, the cold is wreaking havoc on the energy industry itself. U.S. oil production has dropped by well over a million barrels a day, helping U.S. crude prices trade above $60 a barrel for the first time in more than year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/us-power-crisis-leaves-millions-cold-dark-as-blackouts-expand/2021/02/15/26597b8e-6fec-11eb-8651-6d3091eac63f_story.html
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:00 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
This needs to be spread far and wide. These stupid green policies are going to eventually kill a lot of people.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:01 am to LaTexSaint
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LaTexSaint
Read the OP instead of just the headline and think to yourself "could this be feasible". I'm sure your expertise in this field makes you a much more credible source, but just consider it.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:02 am to LaTexSaint
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Texas was warned about this in 2011 after some rolling blackouts. Texas failed to winterize their equipment and it affected us tremendously. Iowa, South Dakota and Canada all use Wind/Solar powered energy and they don't have this problem. The energy was deregulated in the 90's, to avoid federal regulations. That decision has affected Texans today.
People keep saying this. Can you link me the report that evaluated this crisis and determined the cause?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:02 am to FATBOY TIGER
Texas, who famously has no federal regulation of its power grid, just had an embarrassment of epic proportions on the world scale. Millions of people (including me) went without power, heat, water, etc. for nearly a week. Plenty of people died. In *Texas*--where there are no federal regulations.
And your response here is that "federal regulation are the problem."
Holy hell, you people are a lost cause.
And your response here is that "federal regulation are the problem."
Holy hell, you people are a lost cause.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:04 am to LaTexSaint
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The energy was deregulated in the 90's, to avoid federal regulations. That decision has affected Texans today.
California has tight government controls on energy and they have rolling blackouts EVERY SUMMER. Texas has this in extreme conditions only.
The answer is not more regulation. The answer is consumers demanding texas power companies invest in winterization to avoid this going forward.
The feds need to also stop subsidizing wind and solar to artificially pump up the demand for those energy sources. Natural gas is cheap and clean.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:04 am to Cossatotjoe
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They went from a self contained bombproof system to a fragile one that relies on multiple outside factors.
Almost as if this might have been by design.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:04 am to Cossatotjoe
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It was virtually foolproof.
Much like oil pumps burning the gases pulled from the well to power the motor to operate the pump. I miss hearing the Popping Betty I had on my ranch in OK.
Guessing that some still operate this way... though recent pics of pumps look like the greenies have screwed them up with electric too..
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:07 am to Cossatotjoe
i can tell you for a fact (i work in the industry) that many wind farms were fully available through this event but were curtailed to 0 (ZERO) by the offtakers so they sat idle while shite froze.
Texas did not want to spend money after the 2011 and 2013 events to winterize infrastricture which was another failure to this event.
this is in addition to the beaurocrats not allowing generation companies increase production because of leftist climate pollution worries.
all this on top of the OP is what the problem is at its core.
Texas did not want to spend money after the 2011 and 2013 events to winterize infrastricture which was another failure to this event.
this is in addition to the beaurocrats not allowing generation companies increase production because of leftist climate pollution worries.
all this on top of the OP is what the problem is at its core.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:08 am to LaTexSaint
Iowa, South Dakota, and Canada. You realize, of course, that the entire country of Canada has fewer than 10 million more people than Texas?
I’ve got news for you, all three of those places lose windmills to this kind of weather too. Those blades are just like airplane wings. No matter what you do, in that kind of weather they will ice to one degree or another. When that happens, you have to shut them down because they get unbalanced and will destroy themselves. It’s absolute bullshite liberal AOC talking point that you can winterize them to be foolproof. Windmills get shutdown up there too.
The difference is demand on the grid. First, as noted above, the population for the entire country of Canada spread out over thousand of miles is not much more than that of Texas. Secondly, very few homes in those places are heated electrically. They are heated with fuel oil and gas. So, even in a winter storm with lots of windmills not running, they don’t get anything like the surge in demand there was in Texas where 90% of the homes are heated with electricity or even if they are heated with gas, have electric blowers.
I’ve got news for you, all three of those places lose windmills to this kind of weather too. Those blades are just like airplane wings. No matter what you do, in that kind of weather they will ice to one degree or another. When that happens, you have to shut them down because they get unbalanced and will destroy themselves. It’s absolute bullshite liberal AOC talking point that you can winterize them to be foolproof. Windmills get shutdown up there too.
The difference is demand on the grid. First, as noted above, the population for the entire country of Canada spread out over thousand of miles is not much more than that of Texas. Secondly, very few homes in those places are heated electrically. They are heated with fuel oil and gas. So, even in a winter storm with lots of windmills not running, they don’t get anything like the surge in demand there was in Texas where 90% of the homes are heated with electricity or even if they are heated with gas, have electric blowers.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:11 am to coozie
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Texas, who famously has no federal regulation of its power grid, just had an embarrassment of epic proportions on the world scale. Millions of people (including me) went without power, heat, water, etc. for nearly a week. Plenty of people died. In *Texas*--where there are no federal regulations.
And your response here is that "federal regulation are the problem."
Holy hell, you people are a lost cause.
Glad to know Texas is exempt from regulations like the 2011 Cross State Air Pollution Rule and a host of other EPA regulations. Dumbass.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:15 am to coozie
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Texas, who famously has no federal regulation of its power grid,
Lie. The feds prop up "green energy" with subsidies and they also force environmental regs on the NG producers that makes them less reliable.
But please tell us more about how daddy government wouldve saved us.
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