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re: World’s 50 Best Restaurants - 2021
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:11 pm to MobileJosh
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:11 pm to MobileJosh
thanks for the link ... I'm in Bangkok for work and going to try out Suhring. With few tourists here might have a better chance.
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:27 pm to JW
update ... got a reservation for Sunday. Three hour tasting for $150 a person. Not too bad.
thanks TD
thanks TD
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:24 pm to JW
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For what its worth, my favorite ever meals have been at Joe Beef (Montreal) and Frenchette (NYC).. I would eat at both, regularly, if I lived in either one of those cities..
In Montreal for Thanksgiving ... is there a bar i can sit at for Joe Beef??
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:02 am to AbitaFan08
What is the term? List is shite.
No Osteria Francescana in the top 50 when it is every bit as good as Noma, IME better, Botturo is crying. Plus they have Lido 84 and Piazza Duomo, La Calandre and Reale in the list having left out Osteria Francescana and La Pergola from the Italian listees.
They have Cosme, Artiler Crenn, Benu, Single Thread, Atomix, and La Bernardin from the US and no French Laundry.
I have no idea how Osteria Francescana isn't even in their top 5 much less their entire top 100 the same as neither of Keller's 3-star restaurants (The French Laundry and Per Se) being in the top 100 with multiple US restaurants including Atomix and Cosme is baffling.
No Osteria Francescana in the top 50 when it is every bit as good as Noma, IME better, Botturo is crying. Plus they have Lido 84 and Piazza Duomo, La Calandre and Reale in the list having left out Osteria Francescana and La Pergola from the Italian listees.
They have Cosme, Artiler Crenn, Benu, Single Thread, Atomix, and La Bernardin from the US and no French Laundry.
I have no idea how Osteria Francescana isn't even in their top 5 much less their entire top 100 the same as neither of Keller's 3-star restaurants (The French Laundry and Per Se) being in the top 100 with multiple US restaurants including Atomix and Cosme is baffling.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:30 am to Obtuse1
They started a new thing a few years ago where if you win number one, you become added to a “Best of the Best” list and you’re no longer eligible to be on the list. It’s to prevent the same restaurants from always being at the top. Same reason you don’t see Eleven Madison or TFL on the list.
Having been to OF, I would share in your rage if they were otherwise left out of the list.
Best of the Best List
Having been to OF, I would share in your rage if they were otherwise left out of the list.
Best of the Best List
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 1:33 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:35 am to AbitaFan08
I might be in the minority here, but this does not do it for me.
To each their own, but if this shows up at the table (for what I assume an astronomical price tag) I'm going to be pissed.
To each their own, but if this shows up at the table (for what I assume an astronomical price tag) I'm going to be pissed.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 4:24 am to Geauxld Finger
quote:had a chance to go to noma when I was in Denmark a few years back but tree twigs and flowers just didn't appeal to me. There were plenty of other good places to eat.
feel like so much of these ratings is more based on artistry of the plate and technique than the actual taste.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:17 am to JW
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In Montreal for Thanksgiving ... is there a bar i can sit at for Joe Beef??
Yeah, there is. We were there for Thanksgiving, the time we went.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 5:19 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:44 am to TFTC
sweet ... i can probably sidle up at 5pm on Turkey day and have a solo feast.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:55 am to Pintail
I see the caviar, but the next two...does anyone care to offer an idea of how that tastes? One looks like a spring roll.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:12 am to CAD703X
quote:Agreed. I have eaten at some of these world-wide high end dining places many moons ago. And found the best food I had one summer was: At a mom and pop seafood place in Apalachicola, FLA; on a family boat trip from our dock in Indian Harbour Beach to NOLA. The Eau Gallie Yacht Club had more enjoyable food.
had a chance to go to noma when I was in Denmark a few years back but tree twigs and flowers just didn't appeal to me. There were plenty of other good places to eat.
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Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:38 am to AbitaFan08
Some are better than others but what is this?
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Le Calandre
Rubano, Italy
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:48 am to rsb831
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Most recently we did the taco menu at Pujol. It is a toss up as to whether the tasting or the taco menu was better. Sitting at the bar interacting with the server for the taco menu was great. Much more relaxed and fun (granted we did the drink pairing) but the tasting is amazing.
We are doing the taco omakase, seems like it should be an experience. We are also going to Cabo before Mexico City and hitting Enrique Olvera's restaurant there, Manta.
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I have not been to #56 Sud777, but can recommend Contramar, especially Friday lunch, Maximo Bistrot and Rosetta
We've got a reservation at Maximo Bistrot also. That's probably it for high end restaurants in Mexico City though, want to make sure we save time and appetite for street food and casual places since that's such a big part of their food culture.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:51 am to TFTC
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favorite ever meals have been at Joe Beef (Montreal)
Been wanting to go here for years and years. Need to make it to Montreal eventually.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:54 am to Pintail
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I might be in the minority here, but this does not do it for me.
Have you eaten it? Then how do you know it doesn't "do it for you"?
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:10 am to Fun Bunch
Most of these places focus way more on presentation & creativity than on actual flavor of the food IMO. Went to El Cellar de Con Roca, Mugaritz & Tickets a few years back.
Mugaritz was insultingly bad and expensive as shite
El Cellar was good but didn’t live up to the hype and also expensive as Shite
Tickets was the best meal I’ve ever had and not pretentious at all. The restaurant is built like a fun house or carnival and the food is approachable and delicious af
Mugaritz was insultingly bad and expensive as shite
El Cellar was good but didn’t live up to the hype and also expensive as Shite
Tickets was the best meal I’ve ever had and not pretentious at all. The restaurant is built like a fun house or carnival and the food is approachable and delicious af
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:13 am to rjevans123
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Tickets was the best meal I’ve ever had and not pretentious at all. The restaurant is built like a fun house or carnival and the food is approachable and delicious af
One of the best meals of my life as well, and for such a high end, famous restaurant, way more affordable than I expected.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:28 am to Fun Bunch
Le Bernardin several times and Chef Eric does things with fish that are magical...monkfish wow was that a treat..he's been most consistent high performing chef on that list....over 20 yrs...
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:46 am to AbitaFan08
The only one I have been to on this list is #12, Steirereck in Vienna. It was outstanding.
I usually recognize 3 or 4 of them that I have been to but the others have dropped off. The two best meals I have ever had were at Guy Savoy in Paris but they are no longer on the list. Eleven Madison Park is not on it anymore (they have gone vegan).
The first Michelin *** I ever went to was Taillevent in Paris which used to be at the top of these lists. That was about 20 years ago and is still one of the most memorable dining experiences I have ever had.
I usually recognize 3 or 4 of them that I have been to but the others have dropped off. The two best meals I have ever had were at Guy Savoy in Paris but they are no longer on the list. Eleven Madison Park is not on it anymore (they have gone vegan).
The first Michelin *** I ever went to was Taillevent in Paris which used to be at the top of these lists. That was about 20 years ago and is still one of the most memorable dining experiences I have ever had.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:49 am to geauxpurple
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Eleven Madison Park is not on it anymore (they have gone vegan).
Two things:
1. By rule they are no longer on the list because they were recently No.1 so they are now on the Best of the Best list (see my post from earlier)
2. They went vegetarian, not vegan. EDIT: I stand corrected! They did go vegan. Just did a quick google search and I was wrong.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 10:58 am
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