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re: A mobile QB is better for RPO
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:18 am to sabes que
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:18 am to sabes que
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just responding to a criticism of Daniels being too thin
That was the criticism of MB in 2016-2017. Why is JD different?
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Which one had been more injury prone? IYO?
Myles has had some freak injuries but he doesn't put himself in situations in games to be injured. If they had injury concerns about Myles, why bring him back when he was leaving?
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 11:20 am
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:24 am to sabes que
The Eagles won a Super Bowl with backup QB Nick Foles running a RPO scheme.
We all know how fleet of foot he was.
We all know how fleet of foot he was.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:28 am to sabes que
RPO's are dependent on a QB's decision making, not his ability to run. If a team is running it well, the QB almost never has to take off running. If your QB is running on 2nd and 3rd level RPOs, it's because he fricked up the read.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:32 am to deuce985
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We only got small sample sizes but Nuss looks like he's ahead of Daniels and Brennan right now. He also gives you the extra layer with the feet
Right, I wish Brennan would just move on so LSU can move on with developing these guys & the offense style that is best wining games in CFB in 2022
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:35 am to sportsfan
Stop it. Now you are checking out of it. Running a cover 1, late roobber action. (Bama does it all the time, so ur not checking). LB bites and the robber is is sitting on that backside slant. That play is dead but if you have a mobile qb who sees that post snap action(which should be clear as day) he can pull and take off for a + play. This is a standard 10 or 11 personell with a trips look.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:38 am to RB10
Lets get a college comparison here buddy.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:40 am to 5Alive
So knowing that Bama runs that all the time, then why would that particular concept even be called? You think an OC would say, "Bama has a good answer for this one particular play, but let's run it anyway. The hell with the rest of our playbook."
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:40 am to 5Alive
Isn’t cover 1 man? If you’re running an RPO into man you’re gonna have a bad time anyway which is why most rpo’s involved presnap motion to help identify coverage.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:40 am to sabes que
Wit chu.
This is the RPO!
The first Option of RPO is for the handoff and Run by the running back.
The second Option is to Pass.
This is the RPO!
There is no designed Run by the QB if he pulls back the handoff.
The QB does not have to be a skilled runner with the football to execute the RPO effectively!
But a QB's running skill can be an effective element in an RPO because the LB/whoever the QB is reading may have to stay home to protect in case the play is a Zone Read instead of the RPO...
Zone Read - QB either hands the ball off or fakes the handoff and runs himself.
I guess the explanation can be made simpler than that - but not by me.
EDIT: Sorry! This message is just preaching to the choir. I didn't read through the thread before posting.
The question remains - how do we get the RPO/ZR definitions to the "unwashed" who will fill up threads with their confusion?
This is the RPO!
The first Option of RPO is for the handoff and Run by the running back.
The second Option is to Pass.
This is the RPO!
There is no designed Run by the QB if he pulls back the handoff.
The QB does not have to be a skilled runner with the football to execute the RPO effectively!
But a QB's running skill can be an effective element in an RPO because the LB/whoever the QB is reading may have to stay home to protect in case the play is a Zone Read instead of the RPO...
Zone Read - QB either hands the ball off or fakes the handoff and runs himself.
I guess the explanation can be made simpler than that - but not by me.
EDIT: Sorry! This message is just preaching to the choir. I didn't read through the thread before posting.
The question remains - how do we get the RPO/ZR definitions to the "unwashed" who will fill up threads with their confusion?
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:45 am to 5Alive
This is how you counter the "Robber." If the Robber jumps the Slant, then the Fin is wide open. If the QB is running then someone messed up somewhere, or the defense is amazingly good.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:49 am to iBack8569
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RPO's are dependent on a QB's decision making, not his ability to run. If a team is running it well, the QB almost never has to take off running. If your QB is running on 2nd and 3rd level RPOs, it's because he fricked up the read.
Right!! You don't need nor should you depend on 10-15 yard runs. 4 yards at a time is moving. If he reads it right, it'll be open. ALso, thats a Read option. RPO's are passing off a run play if the LB(or whoever is read) bites the run. There are QB run options in RPOs but its based on individual plays. Its not all RPOs.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:58 am to sabes que
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The linebacker or nickel that the QB is reading is way more likely to play/read run if the QB is a threat to keep on the zone read.
A mobile QB is better in every aspect in a vacuum.
The question is whether you give up accuracy, pocket skills, etc. in favor of mobility.
I think the answer to that is CLEARLY no and has been trending to no for some time now. The days of Pat White are pretty much over. College football has evolved into a mix of of quick passes (RPO, screens) which has, IMO, replaced/substituted the value of a running QB and has significantly added downfield passing and efficiency of downfield passing.
Obviously being mobile helps everything. But, I would NEVER give up downfield accuracy for mobility if I had the choice...especially with the talent we routinely get at WR.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:42 pm to Lester Earl
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Right, I wish Brennan would just move on so LSU can move on with developing these guys & the offense style that is best wining games in CFB in 2022
If Brennan wins the job, he will be our best chance at winning games in 2022.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:00 pm to iBack8569
quote:Excellent, My Man! Wish we had more.
A mobile QB is better for RPO
This is how you counter the "Robber." If the Robber jumps the Slant, then the Fin is wide open. If the QB is running then someone messed up somewhere, or the defense is amazingly good.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:17 pm to sabes que
Donnie, you’re out of your element.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
quote:He was going to, but Kelly seems to want him around for some reason.
Right, I wish Brennan would just move on so LSU can move on with developing these guys & the offense style that is best wining games in CFB in 2022
The fact that Kelly knows this is Brennan’s last year of eligibility and he hasn’t told him to transfer yet, tells me there’s something he sees in him. We’ll see.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:30 pm to abellsujr
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He was going to, but Kelly seems to want him around for some reason.
Well yea, until Daniels became available
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:34 pm to Lester Earl
I just think if he knew for sure Brennan wasn’t going to start, he would have told him already. No reason to keep him on if he knows he’s going to intentionally screw him over.
I’m not saying he knows he’s going to start Brennan at all. I’m just saying he definitely hasn’t ruled him out. You shouldn’t either.
I’m not saying he knows he’s going to start Brennan at all. I’m just saying he definitely hasn’t ruled him out. You shouldn’t either.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:41 pm to abellsujr
It benefits LSU to have a QB battle. I don’t think anything is settled.
So who cares who I rule out or not, it doesn’t matter in the least. I am just talking
So who cares who I rule out or not, it doesn’t matter in the least. I am just talking
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:49 pm to Lester Earl
No I get it. I’m just saying I trust Kelly to judge this.
Maybe there are other factors. If Kelly thinks Brennan has the best chance to win games, let’s see it. It’s not always about physical attributes. Let’s see what happens.
Maybe there are other factors. If Kelly thinks Brennan has the best chance to win games, let’s see it. It’s not always about physical attributes. Let’s see what happens.
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