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Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26566 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:04 pm to
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the NCAA had no way to make this person cooperate. So no, the accusation did not make it past the allegation stage.


An NCAA investigation is not a legal case. They didn’t have to prove anything to issue sanctions.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9252 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:15 pm to
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n NCAA investigation is not a legal case. They didn’t have to prove anything to issue sanctions
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That is absolutely incorrect. The Bylaws show what the NCAA has to prove and what information can be used to prove. Those rules are loosely followed when the committee on infractions handles case. However, the IARP followed the rules.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14159 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:19 pm to
I applaud you for fighting the good fight but everyone has picked their positions on this matter and will not be swayed by any evidence, no matter how compelling.

I live 4 hr from NC State now and might just have to pick up a new basketball rooting interest until LSU decides to be serious and compete again. Sure that makes me a fair-weather basketball fan but excuse me for not wanting to watch 3-15 basketball teams…

Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9252 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:21 pm to
Haha. Everybody has a hill to die on. This was our best chance to be consistently good.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
170519 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
They also probably believe that bullshite story of Mauck randomly selecting Jacob Hester to wear his storied number 18 jersey.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
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This was our best chance to be consistently good.


That’s just completely stupid. Will
Wade is not some once in a generation irreplaceable coach. There are other coaches out there, we just have to find one and get him to take the job.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7816 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:24 pm to
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This is retarded. He supported him for 3 years and then it was determined that Wade was lying to him the whole time.


SW is spreading bald faced lies in the media about the current state of LSU basketball.


Consider the source
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7816 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:25 pm to
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There are other coaches out there, we just have to find one and get him to take the job.


Apparently, we have a winner. Only problem is NIL!

That’s what Scott is putting out there
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46681 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:26 pm to
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Wade is not some once in a generation irreplaceable coach. There are other coaches out there, we just have to find one and get him to take the job.
While both could be true, Wade's resume is damn impressive for a 42 year old MBB coach.
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7816 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:30 pm to
Compared to McMahon, he’s John Wooden
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26566 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:32 pm to
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Apparently, we have a winner. Only problem is NIL! That’s what Scott is putting out there


Donors committed money to pay McMahon’s contract. To fire him and hire someone else, they have to agree to that. Ever think maybe they said, “we’ll chip in more for NIL to see what happens but we aren’t paying for two salaries at once right now. Let’s reevaluate after a year with more NIL support.”
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7816 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:40 pm to
I’d imagine Scott’s opinion matters in these things.

I highly doubt he’s even brought up a buyout.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:58 pm to
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While both could be true, Wade's resume is damn impressive for a 42 year old MBB coach.


I agree, getting 3 different schools in the NCAA is impressive but it’s not impossible to win at LSU, we just have to find the another guy and guarantee you they are out there.

Now if you just hate the AD for firing Wade and think he won’t make a good hire and just want to whine about spilt milk then it’s not worth discussing
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:01 pm to
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I applaud you for fighting the good fight but everyone has picked their positions on this matter and will not be swayed by any evidence, no matter how compelling


what difference does it make? Ohh there’s new “evidence” that the AD made a bad decision to fire a coach 3 fricking years ago? Let me change my mind and think he shouldn’t have fired the coach
Posted by RtigerC
Chalmette,La.
Member since Mar 2019
204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:12 pm to
Just like DEMS, do not like factss
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46681 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:15 pm to
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I agree, getting 3 different schools in the NCAA is impressive but it’s not impossible to win at LSU, we just have to find the another guy and guarantee you they are out there.

Now if you just hate the AD for firing Wade and think he won’t make a good hire and just want to whine about spilt milk then it’s not worth discussing
Yeah. I know you as intelligent poster and see it. The passion runs deep on picking a side, but that's not really truth me.

I love my LSU MBB posters because they always care, when others just give up and say "whatever". That is the difference in fandom.

I care much more about LSU Basketball success than per coach. It's always been that way. I joke at Woody, I joke at CoachMc, but it's just a release. Others have differing opinions and that's what a place like this is.

I want H-Town Tiger to coach if you can make LSU MBB relevant.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12741 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:25 pm to
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In fact, in the IARP's findings and press release, it listed the "self-imposed" actions taken by the university that were considered in relation to the sanctions, and not once was the termination of Wade mentioned ( IARP Press Release). Meaning, firing Wade was irrelevant to the severity of the sanctions issued.

The press release you linked does not list all “self-imposed actions taken by the university that were considered in relation to the sanctions” as you suggested. It lists the self-imposed penalties that were accepted by the IARP. There were other “corrective actions” considered by the IARP that were not listed in the press release.

In fact, the actual IARP decision includes the following, as the first two bullet points under self-imposed penalties and corrective actions:
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- Affirmatively suspended former head men's basketball coach following his initial March 2019 refusal to interview, amended his employment agreement to expand the scope of a for-cause termination upon his reinstatement post interview, and terminated his employment with that cause following the issuance of the Notice of Allegations.

- Affirmatively terminated former assistant men's basketball coach No. l's employment with cause following the issuance of the Notice of Allegations.

I think it’s fine (albeit futile) to debate whether Woodward made the right decision, but it’s verifiably false to say that the IARP didn’t even consider those actions when determining sanctions.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
26371 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:33 pm to
TLDR..... another obsessed ranter.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:53 pm to
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I want H-Town Tiger to coach


Trust me you definitely don’t want that

I want LSU MBB to be relevant as much as anyone. I was a student with Shaq and CJ. My FB memories the last few days have had #FreeWillWade post and that general Meme from 6 years ago. Passion is great but a some point it’s become more like a cult. Ffs they are whining about shite that happened 3 years ago, right or wrong it’s over. Wade was never gonna be brought back. It’s time to move on. I don’t like keeping the coach either i just hope that either a miracle happens and he turns it around or they make a good hire next year.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46681 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Trust me you definitely don’t want that
Can you streetball? That's all it takes apparently.

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I want LSU MBB to be relevant as much as anyone. I was a student with Shaq and CJ. My FB memories the last few days have had #FreeWillWade post and that general Meme from 6 years ago. Passion is great but a some point it’s become more like a cult. Ffs they are whining about shite that happened 3 years ago, right or wrong it’s over. Wade was never gonna be brought back. It’s time to move on. I don’t like keeping the coach either i just hope that either a miracle happens and he turns it around or they make a good hire next year.
The whole shite is a mess. "Cults" on both sides. But I think the Wade cult is because we won. The CoachMc cult is contrarian.

I say again, I've been through every coach since Dale, I just want to win LSU MBB.

shite man, if pussy47 coaches us to NCAAT 3/4 years, I'll put up a poster in his honor.
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