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re: For all the Will Wade haters
Posted on 2/12/22 at 8:27 am to ellessuuuu
Posted on 2/12/22 at 8:27 am to ellessuuuu
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The myth that he just wins with better talent is entertaining.
Yep, your are on crack if you think our 2019 team was more talented than either Tennessee or Kentucky that year we beat both of them to win the SEC title.
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:03 am to Metaloctopus
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But I'm just getting a lot of Dale Brown/Les Miles vibes
Hahahahaha.
You lost all credibility with this dumbass analogy.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:04 am to austin_walrus25
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For all the Will Wade haters
Didn't read your thread. Just wanted to say when I see this thread, I automatically assume it's worthless and weak. Good day.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:09 am to austin_walrus25
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Who do you suggest we get?
This is a dumb, tired argument.
It's not up to the fans who we get. It's up to the AD. If it came down to it, I'd trust him. Would you not?
(it hasn't come down to it, not even close, so stop typing).
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:11 am to austin_walrus25
Tldr
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:13 am to Higgysmalls
Man, folks today are ridiculously lazy.
OP was like 200 words. If 200 words are truly considered unmanageably long, we’ve got no hope.
OP was like 200 words. If 200 words are truly considered unmanageably long, we’ve got no hope.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:22 am to funnystuff
I agree man
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:57 am to ellessuuuu
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The myth that he just wins with better talent is entertaining.
How many 5 stars are on the roster today?
How many 4 stars are on the roster?
One 5*. Four 4*.
How many conference wins will he have this year? Fewest since year 1?
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:18 am to Metaloctopus
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When we were healthy, we weren't scoring. And when not healthy, we haven't scored. I think the schedule caught up to the bad offense.
When we were healthy and playing confidently, the team put up 79 points on Tennessee who had the #2 defense in the nation at the time. The team could score just fine. They moved the ball really well in that game too. When you lose your top two guards before and during the season and what you have left is Eric Gaines and Brandon Murray, you're going to struggle. It's funny that the narrative is Wade can't get the team to play offense. Your only options at guard were Gaines who isn't an extremely gifted player offensively, and Brandon Murray, who is very talented but also is a freshman and had some issues with fouls, and injury through this stretch. Justice Williams didn't get his first minutes until the Auburn game and waa really only used to spell those two.
There were a few issues that caused everything to fall off a bit. Injuries and foul trouble were the major culprits to the issue. When we only had three true scorers left playing, if one gets into foul trouble, there will be issues. And we've seen that several times over the last few weeks with either Eason or Murray getting into foul trouble. Days getting injured. Murrah getting injured. Eason was on fire for several games and then fell off a bit after he fouled out in 7 minutes against Florida.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:25 am to tygerphan
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One 5*. Four 4*. How many conference wins will he have this year? Fewest since year 1? I'll hang up and listen.
Now do the other top teams in the sec.
This team was picked to finish 6th in sec BEFORE our arguably best player got hurt.
So please explain to me this talent gap you claim lsu has.
I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:30 am to Metaloctopus
quote:Was going to post a couple of times in this thread and others covered what I was going to say, including rutiger who called out the laziness of the Dale Brown/Les Miles comparison. I was really going to come down harder on you, but I appreciate your apparent openness for thoughtful discussion on this. As another poster said, the main criticism of Wade at LSU has always been his inability to recruit, coach, and motivate a team to play solid defense. His record at VCU and now this year at LSU proves that a false narrative. The idea that a coach could be capable on either side of the court but not both at the same time is even more unlikely. X's and O's are different in basketball. The game is fluid, not set. You need players with amazing instinct and great chemistry for any coach's strategy to work.
I don't know. I want to believe in him. But I'm just getting a lot of Dale Brown/Les Miles vibes. Some people are happy just to not suck.
I'm not saying that Wade will get us to the pinnacle, but I have not seen anything so far to convince me that he can't and certainly think that any call to fire him is completely idiotic. The fact that I don't settle for mediocrity does not prevent me from exercising a combination of thoughtful analysis and patience.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:48 pm to rutiger
Didn't say we have a talent gap. The implication by previous poster was there aren't many 4 or 5* on this roster.
I'm not going to check the Vandy, Ole Miss and TCU rosters but I suspect they don't have the *'s LSU does. You disagree?
I'm not going to check the Vandy, Ole Miss and TCU rosters but I suspect they don't have the *'s LSU does. You disagree?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:58 pm to tygerphan
The only 5* kid on our squad is Efton Reid. The idea that we are more talented than UK and AU and Alabama and Arkansas and Tennessee is just not accurate.
The notion that WW is NOT an x-and-o coach is ludicrous. He trains and coaches his team well, IMO. No one could play our type of D as effectively as we do and not be coached well.
I watch 6-10 full college games each week. The kinds of mistakes we make that are pointed out here as evidence WW cannot coach effectively happen on every team I have seen and that includes Duke and Mich State and Villanova and Baylor and Kansas.
The notion that WW is NOT an x-and-o coach is ludicrous. He trains and coaches his team well, IMO. No one could play our type of D as effectively as we do and not be coached well.
I watch 6-10 full college games each week. The kinds of mistakes we make that are pointed out here as evidence WW cannot coach effectively happen on every team I have seen and that includes Duke and Mich State and Villanova and Baylor and Kansas.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 1:23 pm to kkv75
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Soooooo because we were bad before tPear we have to continue with this waste of talent??
What is it you expect? What is not “wasting” talent in your view? Are we talking not losing certain games during the season? do you think one of the 3 years he’s been here that the NCAA tournament was held we should have advanced further?
Posted on 2/12/22 at 1:32 pm to kkv75
This just shows the ignorance of some fans who just started paying attention to LSU basketball and don’t follow college basketball. Wade has really improved the recruiting at LSU but it’s still not at the level of a Kentucky or the schools you think we’re on par with talent wise. We haven’t had a lottery pick yet but guys like Naz Reid, Cam Thomas, Tremont Waters and others have outperformed their recruiting rankings at LSU. Wade has outperformed pre season expectations every year he’s been at LSU but you morons think he should be winning a national title every year. It’s beyond ignorant.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:31 pm to TDTiger225
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Was going to post a couple of times in this thread and others covered what I was going to say, including rutiger who called out the laziness of the Dale Brown/Les Miles comparison. I was really going to come down harder on you, but I appreciate your apparent openness for thoughtful discussion on this. As another poster said, the main criticism of Wade at LSU has always been his inability to recruit, coach, and motivate a team to play solid defense. His record at VCU and now this year at LSU proves that a false narrative. The idea that a coach could be capable on either side of the court but not both at the same time is even more unlikely. X's and O's are different in basketball. The game is fluid, not set. You need players with amazing instinct and great chemistry for any coach's strategy to work.
I'm not saying that Wade will get us to the pinnacle, but I have not seen anything so far to convince me that he can't and certainly think that any call to fire him is completely idiotic. The fact that I don't settle for mediocrity does not prevent me from exercising a combination of thoughtful analysis and patience.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:45 pm to austin_walrus25
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This board is the largest collection of the most hypocritical and impatient people I have ever seen.
All you tPear haters need to chill tf out see how things play out. We’re winning more games than we ever have and our recruiting classes are only getting stronger.
Bad threads/responses from uninformed and inflexible posters - whether for or agin, WW - will continue for as long as said posters remain miserable people.
It's almost unfair to consider the criticisms of some of the ranters as any measure of "reasoned" at all. They simply vent ugliness - regardless of the subject.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:02 pm to Louisianabound88
quote:With you but there is another variable that has to be considered.
Look I love will wade but to think he didn’t deserve criticism during the skid makes you just as bad as the haters. I understand pinson was out but it happens and you have to make adjustments, his adjustments weren’t very good. I criticized him and said I think we should extend him in the same sentence.
How do we know his adjustments weren't very good? Do we say they weren't very good simply/only because we lost the game? That's a pretty easy Yes/No answer, right? But isn't it possible that being without that key player makes the execution of any adjustments unrealistic to expect?
The strengths/weaknesses of the players determines the quality of execution of schemes and adjustments on the court.
Guess I'd like some clarity as to which adjustments didn't work.
You're not going to stop switching every screen/cut just because it won't be as effective without Pinson, right?
Are you going to change the Iso/Pick n Roll to something else because it won't be as good without Pinson running it? No. You still have to try to get transition baskets, space the floor, Iso for Eason, get somebody into the corner for 3 and run screens to get Days open 3 looks. That's who these guys are.
Ironically, the injury to the guy who would be in charge of making it all work on the court is why folks think changes had to be made.
Somebody please give me some specifics on where WW did/didn't make successful adjustments.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:04 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:All good points that I'm sure will be largely ignored.
The only 5* kid on our squad is Efton Reid. The idea that we are more talented than UK and AU and Alabama and Arkansas and Tennessee is just not accurate.
The notion that WW is NOT an x-and-o coach is ludicrous. He trains and coaches his team well, IMO. No one could play our type of D as effectively as we do and not be coached well.
I watch 6-10 full college games each week. The kinds of mistakes we make that are pointed out here as evidence WW cannot coach effectively happen on every team I have seen and that includes Duke and Mich State and Villanova and Baylor and Kansas.
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:14 pm to SofaKingTrill
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When you lose your top two guards before and during the season and what you have left is Eric Gaines and Brandon Murray, you're going to struggle.
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