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Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:30 pm to captcouv
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Sherman
tGOAT
Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:34 pm to Metaloctopus
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The "civil" war was never about slavery.
Lost causer gonna lost cause
Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:37 pm to White Tiger
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He was a war criminal
Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:40 pm to captcouv
Fun fact: when LSU reopened after the Civil War, Sherman donated books from his personal collection for the Library.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:44 pm to panzer
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He should have been tried, convicted, and hung for war crimes.
Tried by a fake country that lost lol
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:06 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
So he’s ok burning the south? You bafoon!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:22 pm to yakster
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So he’s ok burning the south?
Yes.
fricked around, found out
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:50 pm to Metaloctopus
Someone who actually understands some of that history. Sherman and Lincoln were war criminals. Lincoln did not care a wit about slaves and very clearly said so. He prosecuted a war of conquest on states who have VOTED by large margins to dissolve the political bands that had previously held them in the Union. It was not a Civil War but one of conquest that would enslave all in debt to the banks. That is the system we have today, one of interest slavery.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:52 pm to Peterson Was In
That is absurd as well as being untrue. The South saw that it would be a permanent political minority to be exploited by the North. It was about enslavement of all in a fraudulent monetary system that is now primed to become completely digital.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:53 pm to EulerRules
100% true.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:57 pm to White Tiger
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Someone who actually understands some of that history. Sherman and Lincoln were war criminals. Lincoln did not care a wit about slaves and very clearly said so. He prosecuted a war of conquest on states who have VOTED by large margins to dissolve the political bands that had previously held them in the Union. It was not a Civil War but one of conquest that would enslave all in debt to the banks. That is the system we have today, one of interest slavery.
Yep, but we're getting downvoted by all of the people who learned everything they know about the war from modern liberal infested schools and books. Slavery is always pushed to the forefront of the argument.
Did it matter to the slave owners, themselves? Sure, once Lincoln decided to make that a thing. But with only around 2% of the confederate population owning slaves, this would hardly have been the biggest issue to most people. And Lincoln's "Emancipation Proclamation" not only made exceptions to slave owners in Union territory, but actually did not free anyone, legally. The 13th amendment did. If it had not been passed, slavery would not have ended. So Lincoln's entire "proclamation" was just a show, to make himself look like the hero that, unfortunately, people still believe he is to this day.
I doubt if any of the downvoters have ever been made aware that Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus in 1861, in order to be able to detain any dissenting individuals, which led to thousands of arrests of northern citizens. The man was simply a tyrant, as was Sherman, who burned homes of people who had nothing to do with Lincoln's war. The people who defend such actions really show their true colors, while they pretend to stand on moral high ground.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:37 am to Metaloctopus
They are misguided fools. "Blood Money: The Civil War and the Federal Reserve" by John Remington Graham is a good short book on the subject.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:48 am to Metaloctopus
Won't get into it, but Great Britain was never coming to the aide of the Confederacy on any level.
Making Georgia howl would be a good thing, but I suspect it won't be this year that we do it again.
Making Georgia howl would be a good thing, but I suspect it won't be this year that we do it again.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:20 am to KiwiHead
Sad that we live in a country that shames Lee and honors war criminals like Lincoln and Sherman
Proud to be an Unreconstructed Southerner
Proud to be an Unreconstructed Southerner
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:51 am to SportsGuyNOLA
The same people who idolize Sherman would have an absolute conniption if someone were to pull a stunt of similar magnitude today in the North or elsewhere.
The hypocrisy is deafening.
The hypocrisy is deafening.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:53 am to captcouv
fSherman
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:04 am to Metaloctopus
The "civil" war was never about slavery.
---oh boy, not again.
Without slavery, there would not have been a civil war.
Why did the CSA secede? They wanted to keep slavery.
---oh boy, not again.
Without slavery, there would not have been a civil war.
Why did the CSA secede? They wanted to keep slavery.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:03 pm to cypresstiger
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The "civil" war was never about slavery.
---oh boy, not again.
Without slavery, there would not have been a civil war.
Why did the CSA secede? They wanted to keep slavery.
Slavery was only an issue to to the upper class in the south who actually owned any slaves. For the entire south, this was not a reason to secede, especially considering slavery wasn't even under threat yet. But the war was never necessary, even IF slavery had been the main reason for the secession attempt. Other civilized nations that went on to end slavery, did so peacefully.
The reason for the war was that Lincoln had no constitutional right to deny the south's desire to secede, and he did not want to be known as the president who let the union split under his watch. So he baited the south into a war.
Revisionists will always tell you that the confederates started the war by firing on Fort Sumter. But the truth is that Lincoln had promised confederate leaders that he would not send war ships to Fort Sumter, but he broke that promise, and the confederates responded by firing a shot, which did not hurt anyone, at the fort. No one was killed in that entire "battle", but the the Union invaded from there, and the war was on.
This was a strategic plan by Lincoln. How do I know? Because there is a letter from Lincoln to his naval commander, thanking the commander for helping him reach the desired outcome, which, of course, was to get the confederates in South Carolina to fire on the fort. This gave Lincoln his excuse to get the support he needed from the north for his war. Lincoln could not have been more clear up until this war that he was in support of slavery. It was absolutely not the reason he wanted this war.
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