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Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9842 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:27 pm to
What could possibly be the reasoning for an extension?
Posted by LSUfanaddict
somewhere in TX
Member since Apr 2007
2246 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:28 pm to
Try rioting at the SEC offices.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:32 pm to
true and why he has any buyout at all is mystifing. As Im sure O would walk if he got lowballed and coach at one of the plethora of major colleges that would offer him if he was available.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33975 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:32 pm to
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You know the Alleva negotiation tactics: bid against yourself and give the most years. I'd be shocked if the buyout is less than 10 million because he's that stupid


Yeah, this is the part that has me worried.
Posted by cajun12
Houma, LA
Member since Sep 2004
2542 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:33 pm to
It's all about the buyout.....extensions mean absolutely nothing in this day and age....he needs a long enough contract to recruit effectively....as long as the buyout is reasonable, it won't matter
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33975 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:34 pm to
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What could possibly be the reasoning for an extension?


Recruiting and continuity are the only reasons. Happens all the time. The problem is that Alleva is the one handling it.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:34 pm to
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How about stop going to/watching games?



If they extend him, thats what should happen.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33975 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:35 pm to
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It's all about the buyout.....extensions mean absolutely nothing in this day and age....he needs a long enough contract to recruit effectively....as long as the buyout is reasonable, it won't matter


You will get yelled at for saying this, but it is absolutely 100% true. Contracts and extensions are meaningless outside of the buyouts.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Dude, chill out. In 2 full seasons, he's 9-4 and 9-3, can get to 10-3, and you want to fire him already? Are you insane?



Then why did we fire Les?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42241 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:35 pm to
That would be good for recruiting
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:37 pm to
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They have to give him one for recruiting. If not, it will be open season on him for negative recruiting and that crap scares away recruits more than anything. The key is to not increase his buyout at all so it can be gotten out of, if necessary.



No you don’t. He still has two years on the current contract.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:37 pm to
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Then why did we fire Les


You know that Les had fallen off. He had also lied about fixing the offense. You know it to be true but you want to be disingenuous and act like you don't. It's not a good look.
Posted by MSUBSNTiger
Member since Nov 2008
361 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:39 pm to
I don’t think there is anyone more passionate than O about his team. Is he a top 5 or even top 10 coach in the country, I don’t know but I personally don’t think so. I don’t think a contract extension at this point is warranted though. Let him have another year without a contract extension and see what he does. Unfortunately you have to give a guy his 3 years and see what happens. We will keep our coaching staff intact this offseason and see what happens. If we are going in the right direction extend him, if not let him go.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15323 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:39 pm to
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fire him already?


That was never the direction of this thread. It was about extension. But way to put words in people’s mouths and hijack it.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:40 pm to
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He had also lied about fixing the offense.


Damn that sounds familiar.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:41 pm to
What would be good for recruiting would be to fire him and hire a good coach.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5811 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:45 pm to
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e buyout is of more interest than the extension itself




Exactly. People don't understand the "Extension" is really just for appearance. To show continuity it doesn't cost us more money and it won't give him a longer rope
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3929 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:46 pm to
There's no reason we can't recruit solid kids who think they're going to be NFL caliber players when O still has three years on his contract

It would be worse optics for LSU to only extend him a year and not give him any buyout, which would be the only way to make any kind of extension sane
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15323 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:48 pm to
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You know that Les had fallen off. He had also lied about fixing the offense.


Yup. And we fired him.

Want to start laying out all of O’s lies?

“No rebuild” Then he flips and tells us our lines need rebuilding.

“I’ll hire the best co-ordinators and let them coach”
Then he won’t let the first do that, fires him and promotes a failed OC from our own staff.

“We’ll upgrade the offense”
Nope. Same stale offense as Miles had. Even worse.

“We’ll compete for titles now”
You can see how that has gone.

Face it. O is Les Miles 2.0.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80181 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Why the frick do ADs fall for this bull shite that HCs need a 4 year contract to recruit. frick OFF.


Agree. By that logic we should have extended Curley every year.
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