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re: I'm really trying to understand why McMahon's teams are so bad
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:49 pm to UnluckyTiger
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:49 pm to UnluckyTiger
Seriously though. You'd think Reed was a potential lottery pick with the way he's talked about by a few on here. The guy has averaged 6.6 points and 4.1 rebounds over his career here. Even if you take away his freshman season here, he's at probably around 10 and 6, without doing the math. This year before he got injured, he was averaging 9.5 and 6. He's not some All-SEC caliber player that would be some huge difference maker. He's decent and that's about it. It's absolutely absurd the levels these people will go to to take any blame off McMahon. It's fricking weird.
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:50 pm to saint tiger225
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saint tiger225
I wish I had 100 upvotes to give.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:51 pm to saint tiger225
His numbers vs P5 opponents are even worse and there’s a 50 game sample size for that as well. He was basically a 11ppg, 6rpg player vs rent a win teams with those numbers cut in half vs real opponents.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
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This year he lost his two best players.
People keep repeating that Reed was our 2nd best player and its irritating as hell.
In no universe was he our 2nd best player, it just makes the excuses seem more plausible.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:00 pm to rutiger
Last year when he got hurt they were saying he was our best player when Carter and Sears were obviously better.
Carter averaged 16.1ppg, 4.1rpg on 39.2% from 3. His scoring avg increased in SEC play.
Reed averaged 11.1ppg, 6.5rpg and only faced 4 P5 teams
Carter averaged 16.1ppg, 4.1rpg on 39.2% from 3. His scoring avg increased in SEC play.
Reed averaged 11.1ppg, 6.5rpg and only faced 4 P5 teams
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:01 pm to Circle K Beggar
I have a good feeling this nightmare is almost over brother. The writing is on the wall. People who want to say LSU doesn't have money for basketball because of "donor fatigue" are simply parroting a line that they heard "Baldhead" say on his show. The truth is, football, basketball and baseball NIL donors have very little crossover. So yes, while LSU went and spent a shite ton on football, the fact of the matter is that there are still basketball only donors out there who will be more than happy to send McMahon on his way if/when given the opportunity.
It's even worse because of what happened after last year's season. Everyone in the world knew certain people around LSU wanted Wade back. But, Woodward being the bitch he is wasn't going to let that happen and now our program is continuing to suffer while that fat frick ruined his legacy by once again messing up 2 of the most important hires an athletic department can make. That really soured a bunch of people on Woodward. That was the start of his time at LSU coming to an end.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:05 pm to Wayne Campbell
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I'm no expert, but if in year 4 your entire team's performance goes to shite without 2 players then I don't think you've evaluated talent "well enough.
Remove Acuff and Brazile from Arklansas, Ament and Gillespie from Tennessee, Tanner and Van Nickelfrom Vandy, Holloway and Philon from BAMA and Chimichung and Lee from Florida and lets see what happens.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:06 pm to tigersbb
They wouldn’t be 2-12, that’s for sure
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:07 pm to tigersbb
quote:they’re all still up 20
Remove Acuff and Brazile from Arklansas, Ament and Gillespie from Tennessee, Tanner and Van Nickelfrom Vandy, Holloway and Philon from BAMA and Chimichung and Lee from Florida and lets see what happens.
At half vs us. See South Carolina, Miss State, UGA
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:08 pm to tigersbb
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Remove Acuff and Brazile from Arklansas, Ament and Gillespie from Tennessee, Tanner and Van Nickelfrom Vandy, Holloway and Philon from BAMA and Chimichung and Lee from Florida and lets see what happens.
Quiet. The rational adults are talking.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:10 pm to Lucado
It's 1, 2, 3, and 4 in about equal proportions.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:12 pm to Circle K Beggar
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The rational adults are talking.
That certainly eliminates you. You belong to the a-hole discussion group.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:31 pm to Lucado
LSU has a dumb arse coach…when you’re in a game and you draw up a play for Tamba to take a last second 3 pointer instead of your best 3 point shooter on the team, you have a dumb coach … when you don’t post up players front and back Ky’s big man on a last second desperation shot, you have a dumb coach.. when you have a coach who doesn’t use his players to their best skills but tries to transform them into something they are not, you have a dumb coach.. you can’t tell me all these players that he’s coached are all that bad…it’s the coaching that’s the problem…we could go on and on…
Posted on 2/25/26 at 6:32 pm to Lucado
One thing I noticed when we hired will wade was how he changed the program. He put his players through grulling work outs before the season started. And had a lot of drills teaching fundamentals.
I have know idea what training McMahon does but whatever it is, it's not working. He is in way over his head and needs to go.
I have know idea what training McMahon does but whatever it is, it's not working. He is in way over his head and needs to go.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:00 pm to Lucado
His teams at LSU have consistently given up a very high three-point shot percentage. The biggest factor in this equation is that we cannot stop a straight line drive. This leads to defenders collapsing, leaving wide open shooters on the perimeter. In general, we are not very tough defensively. We have also lacked toughness on the boards.
His team in general are soft. This doesn’t mean they don’t play hard, he generally gets good effort from his players. There is a difference between being tough and playing hard.
Teams tend to take on the personality of their coach. McMahon appears to be a very passive individual. His teams seem to play with that same lack of urgency, intensity, and aggression.
Talent is not the biggest issue for this team, and has not been the biggest issue for this team over the last four years. We have not been the most talented team in the conference, but based on recruiting rankings, we certainly are not the worst. On talent, alone, we should have more than 14 wins over a four year Conference stretch.
McMahon seems to be a really good person and has proven at other stops he’s a good basketball coach. He just doesn’t have the personality to be a head coach at this level. Wish him the absolute best once he moves on, but it was obvious from year one that he was not the answer here.
His team in general are soft. This doesn’t mean they don’t play hard, he generally gets good effort from his players. There is a difference between being tough and playing hard.
Teams tend to take on the personality of their coach. McMahon appears to be a very passive individual. His teams seem to play with that same lack of urgency, intensity, and aggression.
Talent is not the biggest issue for this team, and has not been the biggest issue for this team over the last four years. We have not been the most talented team in the conference, but based on recruiting rankings, we certainly are not the worst. On talent, alone, we should have more than 14 wins over a four year Conference stretch.
McMahon seems to be a really good person and has proven at other stops he’s a good basketball coach. He just doesn’t have the personality to be a head coach at this level. Wish him the absolute best once he moves on, but it was obvious from year one that he was not the answer here.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:19 pm to Lucado
Just like with football, some coaches have adapted to the new era, and some haven't. McMahon has gotten less effective every year...and the SEC seems to get better every year, or at least the top half of the league.
For McMahon it seems to play out with lack of depth. He's lost key guys every year, and the team just folds like a house of cards. I'll even allow that there's just some really bad luck at play here. But after that happened once or twice, seems like he should have recruited differently? Trained better? Don't know.
But 4 years with zero tournament appearances is unforgivable. Time to move on.
For McMahon it seems to play out with lack of depth. He's lost key guys every year, and the team just folds like a house of cards. I'll even allow that there's just some really bad luck at play here. But after that happened once or twice, seems like he should have recruited differently? Trained better? Don't know.
But 4 years with zero tournament appearances is unforgivable. Time to move on.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:45 pm to Lucado
The first year was lack of talent, because the progrram was under threat of sanction. We got whatever talent was leftover. The 2nd year went okay since the SEC wasn't that strong and we had luck. The 3rd year the SEC was extremely strong, we lost our best post better player, and Miller was not ready to contribute. We didn't have a good point guard for any of the first 3 years. We lacked depth the first 3 years because of NIL. This year we got better talent, but still don't have the depth to survive losing our point guard and our most skilled post man.
You can also add that McMahon is not a great coach nor motivator, so the team has underperformed, but I think he is good enough to do much better, and even win in the SEC if not for the bad luck.
You can also add that McMahon is not a great coach nor motivator, so the team has underperformed, but I think he is good enough to do much better, and even win in the SEC if not for the bad luck.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:51 pm to Lapaz
You just made excuses for four seasons. How pathetic is that?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:55 pm to Lapaz
First year he had a top 16 composite recruiting/portal class and was picked 6th in the SEC.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:21 pm to Lucado
He’s not Will Wade that’s for sure. Lol
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