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re: I’m still in shock on why there are Woody defenders

Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37232 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:37 am to
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Y’all need to stop acting like it was a bad hire at the time.


It was a short sighted lazy hire. It was dropping the biggest bag on the biggest name willing to make a move without any consideration for personality, ability to transition to a new era etc.

LSU was seen as a big rebuild which would require effort and energy in a transition time in the sport (nil portal etc) and woody gave $100 million guaranteed to a guy everyone saw as 3-5 years from retirement.



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The revisionist history is ridiculous.



The first 24 hours on this board was resoundingly negative.


He was seen as a jerk, not able to win the big one, bad fit, bad recruiter and a dinosaur on offense.


This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
628 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:43 am to
I wan't talking about Kelly.
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
618 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:46 am to
They’re his political defenders. Haven’t you heard? Democrats don’t have to produce results, just be members of the club.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21667 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:49 am to
Why did he pay a fine for $13k of undisclosed free traveling?
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6300 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:54 am to
Yes, you are right. He also got us Jay Johnson and Kim Mulkey. Of course there is always going to be a bigger focus on the football team because it's the biggest revenue generator and has more overall eyes on it.

The way it went down with Governor Landry being involved is embarrassing.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5520 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:59 am to
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The 10yr commitment is what ultimately killed us. But I'm sure Scott and Kelly both thought he'd never finish out the 10 and walk away after 5-7 if he'd won a title.

Even as someone who hates Kelly, I thought there'd be no way we weren't at least near the top of the SEC every year. So I can't blame Scott for thinking the same.


It was a bad hire the day Kelly was hired. Too many of you are so caught up in the “Resume” that you pass right by the obvious!

Kelly was 61 years old when he was hired. He was entering the golden years when your energy, drive, and ambition give way. Everyone at Notre Dame, as in Everyone, was ecstatic and thrilled that LSU took him. Why was that? Why wasn’t that looked into deeply prior to hiring him??

I knew Kelly was a bad hire the day we hired him, because I knew his energy, drive, and ambition of his earlier years simply wouldn’t be there. I also never liked his aloof demeanor and how he treated people.

He never, ever should have been hired. Woodward fricked up. Period.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:00 am to
There arent woody defenders chief. Some folks just question why he was let go when the HC was let go.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27361 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:01 am to
In hindsight, the Kelly hire was lazy...
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13014 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:08 am to
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It was a short sighted lazy hire. It was dropping the biggest bag on the biggest name willing to make a move without any consideration for personality, ability to transition to a new era etc.


That’s just not true. It wasn’t lazy, it was calculated. Kelly was the winningest coach in Notre Dame history, compiling a 113–40 record (.739 winning percentage) over 12 seasons, playing for a NC, making playoffs 2x.

Every major hire carries risk, but calling it “lazy” ignores that LSU swung for one of the only proven program builders available. You can say it didn’t work out, but it was never some desperate or uninformed lazy move. Calling it so is a lazy argument.


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LSU was seen as a big rebuild which would require effort and energy in a transition time in the sport (nil portal etc) and woody gave $100 million guaranteed to a guy everyone saw as 3-5 years from retirement.


Exactly. Notre Dame wasn’t exactly a powerhouse when Kelly arrived, they won just 57% of their games over the prior 10 seasons and had multiple sub-.500 years. Kelly took that program and turned it into a 74% winning program, consistently in the top 10, and a two-time playoff contender.

Calling him a “lazy” or “short-sighted” hire ignores the context: LSU was swinging for a proven winner who had shown he could rebuild a storied program in a tough environment. It didn’t work out here, fine, but that doesn’t erase the fact that the hire made total sense at the time. Revisionist takes like “he was close to retirement” or “lazy hire” just aren’t honest.

Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
393 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:13 am to
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There really aren't. The "backlash" you are reading falls into one of two categories:

1. Democrats who hate Landry.

2. Miserable fricks who complain about everything. The kind that want Jay Johnson fired if he doesn't sweep a weekend series.


You’re missing the majority of people who simply didn’t want Landry to air out his grievances in the manner he did.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37370 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:19 am to
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I’m still in shock on why there are Woody defenders


Because some of us are intellectual enough to see the big picture.

Yes, football didn't work. Yes, basketball probably isn't going to work. And yes, I know those are the 2 revenue producers.

However, there are many facets to an AD's job. Despite football and basketball being an issue, Scott has kept the books balanced, despite the buyouts.. Athletics is supporting itself and Scott knows and has good relationships with people who are willing to open their deep pockets and donate money.

All of the coaches enjoyed having him as their boss. I have never heard of any coach of any sport at LSU that had a bad thing to say. Scott apparently supported them and gave them all what they need to be successful.

You have to hope the new AD is as good at getting people to hand over money as Scott was.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
5483 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:20 am to
Its lefties bro, lefties
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
7073 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:30 am to
Right, Minuscule profit, WRONG(lost 7mill with Natty)
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3719 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:32 am to
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How much is Mcmahon buyout?


I wish they would have fired them both last year when we could have offered Wade his job back. If we are going scorched earth, I want the basketball program to not be shite.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
38714 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:46 am to
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It was a bad hire the day Kelly was hired. Too many of you are so caught up in the “Resume” that you pass right by the obvious!

Kelly was 61 years old when he was hired. He was entering the golden years when your energy, drive, and ambition give way. Everyone at Notre Dame, as in Everyone, was ecstatic and thrilled that LSU took him. Why was that? Why wasn’t that looked into deeply prior to hiring him??

I knew Kelly was a bad hire the day we hired him, because I knew his energy, drive, and ambition of his earlier years simply wouldn’t be there. I also never liked his aloof demeanor and how he treated people.

He never, ever should have been hired. Woodward fricked up. Period.


fricking Liar

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re: Love this BK press conference quote...
Posted by Tammany Tom on 12/1/21 at 4:07 pm to Doby
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Lol, he wasn’t our first choice boys.


Who really gives a F if he was our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice. He's ours now! And....... guess what? He's the most accomplished and most successful coach that LSU has ever hired as it's Football coach. Name me one other coach that comes close to the accomplishments that BK has acheived that was available to be hired?? Saban and Dabo? You think they were available??

We just pulled away the winningest football coach in the history of one of the most decorated football programs in America. We pulled away a highly successful coach from the media's most precious program and you want to make a point that he wasn't our first choice?!?! GFY!!!

I'm damned excited that we have a coach in place that is going to bring much needed discipline and order to this program. Get behind this program and coach or go find another to support.
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Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86927 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:48 am to
Who was the last popular AD at LSU?
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4171 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:50 am to
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the governor has no say in how much LSU is going to pay a coach


BOS who are appointed by Governor are involved with approval of contract.

For this reason, by proxy the governor is also involved.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2984 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:50 am to
How much is Mcmahon buyout?
Good question? Woodward fired Kelly mid season with a 5-3 record and a 54 million dollar buyout. MaMahon has performing worse than Kelly since day 1. You would think MaMahon has a 100 million buyout the way Woodward had been acting.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42290 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:56 am to
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Y’all need to stop acting like it was a bad hire at the time. The revisionist history is ridiculous.


The best football coach in LSU history was Nick Saban. He built our program and delivered two SEC titles and a NC.

Compare Brian Kelly to Saban and BK falls way short. He got us to Atlanta once and we lost. That’s it.

Now at the time consensus was that Saban was an OK hire and BK an elite hire. Emmert landed Saban and SW landed BK.

Are you saying SW was better at hiring a coach just because on paper BK, Jimbo, Sark and Peterson all looked great at the times they were hired?

To me it’s like preseason rankings of recruiting rankings. They mean little. What matters is how things turn out.


Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63187 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:57 am to
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It plays 3rd fiddle here


This is a big problem.
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