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re: Its time for us to sit at the picnic table and talk about Clemson
Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:41 pm to CarolinaBayou
Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:41 pm to CarolinaBayou
In my opinion,,klubick is a tad overrated, and his receivers are good, not great. Stop the ground game and protect Nuss. Whoever wins the turnover battle is gonna win this game.My only worries are, 1. Can our line hold up against their defensive front, 2. Stopping the run. We don’t wanna get into a slow, kinda grind it out ugly game.
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 3:56 pm to GrizzlyWintergreen
I see another opening day loss. May BK prove me wrong…in spades.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:09 pm to CarolinaBayou
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they respect us because we have beaten them pretty much every time we play. Exception being the les miles clock management debacle in the peach bowl.
Geez, I forgot about that one. How many did that dude have. He even had them in a couple of games we won!!
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:09 pm to sciencefairchamp
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LSU wins 30-17, late TD by Clemson in the 4th to make it respectable
Nope. 31-30 kind of game with early and late scoring.
Teams will settle in, then one team makes a late surge.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 4:47 am to BayouCowboy
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Clemson lost their top RB to the draft. Their next most experienced RB had 295 yds last season. They might be pretty one dimensional and create an opportunity for LSU to key on Klubnik.
This is the game, or atleast half of it. The other half is LSU’s running game.
I think this reverts back to an old school type of game where the team that can put together the most efficient running game will win. Doesn’t than the most yards but most efficient. Clemson’s offense at every position other than RB is loaded. At the same time, the RB position is a disgrace. We have a former WR and a bunch of young nobodies. Folks here think it will be solid. I think it will be a huge hole.
On the other side, LSU’s Durham or whatever the freshman’s name is has me worried af. That dude is all knees and elbows, and our D struggled against the run some game. The new DC HAS TO get that cleaned up. If it was still the old bum at DC, I’d say no chance we win this. With Allen, I think we’ll win a close one, but if we can’t stop the run, we won’t.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 6:30 am to sciencefairchamp
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but they were in all honesty mid last year
You're getting downvoted but here's the facts:
They went 1-3 vs ranked teams last year with the 1 win being SMU in the ACC Championship game. The 3 losses all being SEC teams.
Aside from that SMU game, they only beat 1 team who finished with a winning record last season - a 7-6 Pitt team who finished 3-6 in the ACC.
The only other team they played with a winning record was Louisville who beat Clemson at Clemson by 12 points.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:09 am to NolaLovingClemsonFan
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With Allen, I think we’ll win a close one, but if we can’t stop the run, we won’t.
I agree, the run game for both teams is key.
Can LSU stop Klubnik from running? We were hit and miss on that last year, decent against Pavia and Arnold, terrible against Milton and A&M qb. We will see how the new guys help there.
I also noticed, to beat Clemson you need to run the ball, all of their 4 losses they couldn’t stop the run.
A healthy Durham can change a game, see South Carolina. But with a whole new line, can we open any holes against a talented defensive line? It’s going to be a fun game!
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:21 am to Reeaholic
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Can LSU stop Klubnik from running? We were hit and miss on that last year, decent against Pavia and Arnold, terrible against Milton and A&M qb. We will see how the new guys help there.
Klubnik’s mobility is weird. He’s not a shifty guy who will make a lot of people miss in the pocket and scramble for big plays. His thing is he’s got good straight line speed and can bust one on a designed run if teams aren’t disciplined. If defenses are disciplined, his running threat can fairly easily be neutralized.
I actually think his quick passing game is what’s needed to open up the run game in this game. That’s what we came out doing against Texas with a lot of success. He’s very quick and decisive in the short passing game. Think late career Bo Nix. He’s seen it all, been in the system for years, and with the weapons we have, he should be doing that over slamming our scrub RBs up against even a decent front seven, which I expect LSU’s to be better than that this year.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:31 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
The offensive line and the secondary decide this game. If we can hold our own in both departments, we win this game. If we can't block their front or we can't cover their WRs, its gonna be another sad day to open the season.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:34 am to White Tiger
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I see another opening day loss. May BK prove me wrong…in spades.
Of course you see that. Here's what you 'saw' a couple of years ago....
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Posted by White Tiger on 1/13/23 at 8:47 am
As of now, DCs know that JD5 is no passing threat. They will plan accordingly. I think he will have a worse year in 23.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 4:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Hahahahahahahaaaa. And? Some may say that BK has accomplished fukall since his arrival, but not me.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:29 pm to GrizzlyWintergreen
When I looked at their roster, I was surprised. It's better than I thought.
2 projected top 10 picks on the D line.
Projected best d line in the country according to PFF
Woodaz and Sammy Brown are a very good lb duo. Maybe not top 10 nationally but, probably top 15.
Terrell and Hampton are absolutely elite corners but Clemson's secondary after that gets dicey
Overall, Clemson is showing up on several top 10 defenses nationally. Allen is respected as a coordinator and expected to improve the run defense from last season.
Clemson's oline is going to be solid. 5 of the 6 ol who played 500 snaps last year return. Miller is elite at tackle. Leigh on the other side is a 3 year starter.
Wesco, Moore and Williams are elite wideouts.
Clemson doesn't have a RB that jumps off the page
And then there's Klubnik. I have watched him fairly closely the last couple of seasons. He's fast and he can make an elite throw every now and then but he's like every other dime-a-dozen "athletic" qb in the country - inconsistent. He underwhelms more than he dazzles. I think the people who are ranking him #1 or better than Nuss are doing so because he can extend plays/move the sticks and because he's experienced. I think he's a bit overrated. He's certainly capable of winning games and making plays. I just don't think he's quite as good as his pub.
LSUs run game vs Clemson front 7 - advantage Clemson. While the line has solid talent and depth, they will be getting their first snaps together in one of the toughest environments. If this game were played later or at a neutral site, I would say it's a wash, but not at Clemson for the first game.
LSUs passing game vs Clemson secondary - wash. LSU individually can best any secondary in the country, including Clemson, but the problem is the oline. We have no idea how good they will be at pass pro. Nuss can run better than advertised but he's not Jayden. I think LSU wins some matchups but Clemson's stout dline disrupts the passing some too.
LSUs front 7 vs Clemson run game - advantage LSU. LSU is going to be very salty and better than advertised. LSU has talent and depth at each position. And some of the talent is jump off the page elite. As for Klubnik extending plays - forget it in this game. He's NEVER seen 3 backers that are as athletic as Whit, Keys and Perkules. Having Perk back is massively huge against running QBs and I would imagine there was great emphasis on that part of the game in the offseason. Perk returning is going to free up the edges to either hold the edge or rush and it will free up Whit to clog the lanes. All Keys needs to do is stay sound.
LSUs secondary vs Clemson passing game - Clemson's WRs are more than a match for LSUs retooled secondary, individually. But with Klubnik bottled up, there's no way he makes all the throws necessary to carve up LSU's secondary. He's good but not that good.
ST - advantage LSU. LSUs return game gives LSU the nod
Coaching - advantage LSU. Clemson is breaking in 2 new coordinators. I don't care how good Allen and Riley have been at previous stops. It takes some time to get acclimated. You can say Joe Brady but that was a unicorn and Clemson does NOT have LSUs 2019 roster. I think bringing the whole staff back gives LSU the advantage. While Sloan had some deficiencies last season, he showed some growth in the bowl game, particularly the rz. There were some decent calls there. Baker just needed to clean up a couple of things and Kelly says that he lacked the personnel, which I think everyone agrees with. Otherwise, Baker's defense was disruptive all season. LSU having a reliable run game would have helped the defense some which would have elevated Baker's stats.
X factor - Clemson. Home game. Tough environment.
What to expect - Clemson 24, LSU 23. I do think LSU shows up but falls a bit short because of the oline just needing more time to gel. We might see Clemson's d get a turnover or a stop in LSUs territory which sets up their o with some easy opportunities. LSUs d performs admirably but has to be on the field too much. Pretty much a repeat of the USC game.
Having said that, my predictions are flat out horrible every year.
2 projected top 10 picks on the D line.
Projected best d line in the country according to PFF
Woodaz and Sammy Brown are a very good lb duo. Maybe not top 10 nationally but, probably top 15.
Terrell and Hampton are absolutely elite corners but Clemson's secondary after that gets dicey
Overall, Clemson is showing up on several top 10 defenses nationally. Allen is respected as a coordinator and expected to improve the run defense from last season.
Clemson's oline is going to be solid. 5 of the 6 ol who played 500 snaps last year return. Miller is elite at tackle. Leigh on the other side is a 3 year starter.
Wesco, Moore and Williams are elite wideouts.
Clemson doesn't have a RB that jumps off the page
And then there's Klubnik. I have watched him fairly closely the last couple of seasons. He's fast and he can make an elite throw every now and then but he's like every other dime-a-dozen "athletic" qb in the country - inconsistent. He underwhelms more than he dazzles. I think the people who are ranking him #1 or better than Nuss are doing so because he can extend plays/move the sticks and because he's experienced. I think he's a bit overrated. He's certainly capable of winning games and making plays. I just don't think he's quite as good as his pub.
LSUs run game vs Clemson front 7 - advantage Clemson. While the line has solid talent and depth, they will be getting their first snaps together in one of the toughest environments. If this game were played later or at a neutral site, I would say it's a wash, but not at Clemson for the first game.
LSUs passing game vs Clemson secondary - wash. LSU individually can best any secondary in the country, including Clemson, but the problem is the oline. We have no idea how good they will be at pass pro. Nuss can run better than advertised but he's not Jayden. I think LSU wins some matchups but Clemson's stout dline disrupts the passing some too.
LSUs front 7 vs Clemson run game - advantage LSU. LSU is going to be very salty and better than advertised. LSU has talent and depth at each position. And some of the talent is jump off the page elite. As for Klubnik extending plays - forget it in this game. He's NEVER seen 3 backers that are as athletic as Whit, Keys and Perkules. Having Perk back is massively huge against running QBs and I would imagine there was great emphasis on that part of the game in the offseason. Perk returning is going to free up the edges to either hold the edge or rush and it will free up Whit to clog the lanes. All Keys needs to do is stay sound.
LSUs secondary vs Clemson passing game - Clemson's WRs are more than a match for LSUs retooled secondary, individually. But with Klubnik bottled up, there's no way he makes all the throws necessary to carve up LSU's secondary. He's good but not that good.
ST - advantage LSU. LSUs return game gives LSU the nod
Coaching - advantage LSU. Clemson is breaking in 2 new coordinators. I don't care how good Allen and Riley have been at previous stops. It takes some time to get acclimated. You can say Joe Brady but that was a unicorn and Clemson does NOT have LSUs 2019 roster. I think bringing the whole staff back gives LSU the advantage. While Sloan had some deficiencies last season, he showed some growth in the bowl game, particularly the rz. There were some decent calls there. Baker just needed to clean up a couple of things and Kelly says that he lacked the personnel, which I think everyone agrees with. Otherwise, Baker's defense was disruptive all season. LSU having a reliable run game would have helped the defense some which would have elevated Baker's stats.
X factor - Clemson. Home game. Tough environment.
What to expect - Clemson 24, LSU 23. I do think LSU shows up but falls a bit short because of the oline just needing more time to gel. We might see Clemson's d get a turnover or a stop in LSUs territory which sets up their o with some easy opportunities. LSUs d performs admirably but has to be on the field too much. Pretty much a repeat of the USC game.
Having said that, my predictions are flat out horrible every year.
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