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re: Johnny Jones Replacements
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:36 am to HypnoticPoison
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:36 am to HypnoticPoison
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Someone mentioned Tony Bennett from UVA and I would love that as a possibility.
Only if Calipari and Pitino turn it down first though, amirite
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 10:37 am
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:36 am to LR2RedStick
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Would also be pricy.
time to stop shopping from the bargain bin for coaches
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:36 am to monsterballads
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Someone mentioned Tony Bennett from UVA and I would love that as a possibility.
Just Stahp
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:38 am to BilJ
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we're not replacing Johnny after this year unfortunately.
I think without Horsnby and with the team quitting on Jones we lose most, if not all, of our remaining games. Then 1 or 2 and done in SEC tourny, then no NCAA tourny, and bad seed in the NIT.
After this happens, Jones will be canned, Simmons is gone, and Blakeney (and maybe Victor) transfers to a good basketball school without having to sit out a year due to coaching change rule…
And we are in full on rebuilding mode with a new coach.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:47 am to LR2RedStick
Archie Miller-blank check
Tim Cluess-Iona
Gregg Marshall-blank check
Chris Mack-Xavier
Tim Cluess-Iona
Gregg Marshall-blank check
Chris Mack-Xavier
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:47 am to LR2RedStick
1. Wake Forest Sucks
2. Cant see him choosing LSU over others
3. Dunno much about him but i know UAB is pretty good this year. I like it.
2. Cant see him choosing LSU over others
3. Dunno much about him but i know UAB is pretty good this year. I like it.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:56 am to DollaChoppa
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1. Wake Forest Sucks
Hes in the middle of a massive rebuilding project there and only in year 2 I believe. But their record is definitely a red flag for sure.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:58 am to DollaChoppa
I still can't figure out why Bennett is thought to be a pipe dream? I would say UVA year in year out is the 5th or 6th most talented team in the ACC, and I don't see that changing. It's definitely a testament to how good of a coach he is, but that fact may eventually wear on him. He could have arguably the 2nd best roster in the SEC behind UK in most years at LSU. If LSU would open the checkbook and convince him they're committed to making LSU a special program then I would think he'd at least give them a look.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:04 am to LR2RedStick
I've always liked Buzz Williams.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:09 am to LR2RedStick
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Thoughts?
I said this in a thread yesterday, but if LSU is going to move on from Jones, now is the time to do it for the sake of the program. I like Jones as a person. I like Jones as an ambassador for LSU. It really is hard to say, in a world where many coaches are nothing more than hired guns always looking for their next move, that LSU should let go of a guy that clearly loves this university and has no desire to go anywhere else. That said, there is nothing in his head coaching career pre-LSU and in his 4 years at LSU that makes you to believe he could lead LSU to a championship level. That's the ultimate goal, right? Otherwise why even have a program if you're not trying to be the best?
You'll get the sunshine pumpers rolling in to say the only acceptable options are Archie Miller or Tony Bennett. However, I think we have to be realistic. Bennett has been mentioned twice now as a "potential" LSU coach (both when Johnson and Jones were hired). His ONLY connection to LSU is that his wife is from BR. Otherwise, why would he realistically leave a great job in a great basketball conference to come to LSU? You could argue it would be a downward move. It would be like (insert great SEC football coach) leaving to take a HC job at a middling ACC program. It would be great to get him, but it's just not happening.
You could probably say the same thing for Miller. Yes, LSU is more of a "power program", but this isn't football, mid-majors can compete at a high-level with the big boys. Still, like his brother at Xavier, I think he will eventually leave for a big program. The ultimate question becomes"is LSU that program?" The Florida, Tennessee and Alabama jobs all were available last season. Miller was mentioned as a "potential" candidate for each. Yet, he's still at Dayton. Be honest and take of the P&G glasses, can we say that LSU's basketball program is currently any "better" than Bama, UT and/or Florida? Sure you would have to make the call, but I just don't see Miller to LSU happening.
I'm not really big on Manning, but Brad Underwood is an interesting name. I think he would be interested in the LSU job. The downside is that he is a Kansas native and K-State alum. That job may be coming open at the end of the season, so would he choose home over LSU?
This has been one of the most disappointing and frustrating seasons of LSU basketball in a long time. You can see the individual talent on the court, but rarely does there seem to be any cohesive plan. Still, even with Simmons, Gray and Hornsby definitely departing, there is some real talent left on the team. The downside is that the recruiting class coming in may be the weakest Jones has signed at LSU (excluding his first season with no time to fully recruit) and I just can't see any way next year's team is "better" than this year's group in what could be a stronger conference overall. So why wait one more year and possibly allow the talent level to drop?
Either way, (fair or unfair) Jones is about to become a national punching-bag for failing to even reach the NCAAT with the presumptive most-talented player in college basketball and a top 5 recruiting class. why not salvage the good (the talent) and stem the negative perception that is going to come to the program at the end of this season. I think the right coach could come in and have LSU be a competitive team next season. Doing so could obviously help recruiting. For whatever reason, this year's team has quit on their coach. Why let the program sink to rock-bottom before trying to right the ship?
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:10 am to LR2RedStick
Wow an anchor for a civil discussion of potential coaching replacements for our perennially underachieving basketball program?
Pretty weak.
Also Buzz Williams is a solid name to add to this list before it disappears forever.
Pretty weak.
Also Buzz Williams is a solid name to add to this list before it disappears forever.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:44 am to LR2RedStick
Gregg Marshall
Mark Few
Bruce Pearl
Brad Stevens
Mark Few
Bruce Pearl
Brad Stevens
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:47 am to TheBadgerOfHoney
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Mark Few
LOL
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Brad Stevens
WAT
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Gregg Marshall
Sure, and lets get Jon Gruden to be our OC too.
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Bruce Pearl
Not leaving Auburn right now.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:59 am to Alt26
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I said this in a thread yesterday, but if LSU is going to move on from Jones, now is the time to do it for the sake of the program. I like Jones as a person. I like Jones as an ambassador for LSU. It really is hard to say, in a world where many coaches are nothing more than hired guns always looking for their next move, that LSU should let go of a guy that clearly loves this university and has no desire to go anywhere else. That said, there is nothing in his head coaching career pre-LSU and in his 4 years at LSU that makes you to believe he could lead LSU to a championship level. That's the ultimate goal, right? Otherwise why even have a program if you're not trying to be the best?
You'll get the sunshine pumpers rolling in to say the only acceptable options are Archie Miller or Tony Bennett. However, I think we have to be realistic. Bennett has been mentioned twice now as a "potential" LSU coach (both when Johnson and Jones were hired). His ONLY connection to LSU is that his wife is from BR. Otherwise, why would he realistically leave a great job in a great basketball conference to come to LSU? You could argue it would be a downward move. It would be like (insert great SEC football coach) leaving to take a HC job at a middling ACC program. It would be great to get him, but it's just not happening.
You could probably say the same thing for Miller. Yes, LSU is more of a "power program", but this isn't football, mid-majors can compete at a high-level with the big boys. Still, like his brother at Xavier, I think he will eventually leave for a big program. The ultimate question becomes"is LSU that program?" The Florida, Tennessee and Alabama jobs all were available last season. Miller was mentioned as a "potential" candidate for each. Yet, he's still at Dayton. Be honest and take of the P&G glasses, can we say that LSU's basketball program is currently any "better" than Bama, UT and/or Florida? Sure you would have to make the call, but I just don't see Miller to LSU happening.
I'm not really big on Manning, but Brad Underwood is an interesting name. I think he would be interested in the LSU job. The downside is that he is a Kansas native and K-State alum. That job may be coming open at the end of the season, so would he choose home over LSU?
This has been one of the most disappointing and frustrating seasons of LSU basketball in a long time. You can see the individual talent on the court, but rarely does there seem to be any cohesive plan. Still, even with Simmons, Gray and Hornsby definitely departing, there is some real talent left on the team. The downside is that the recruiting class coming in may be the weakest Jones has signed at LSU (excluding his first season with no time to fully recruit) and I just can see any way next year's team is "better" than this year's group in what could be a stronger conference overall. So why wait one more year and possibly allow the talent level to drop?
Either way, (fair or unfair) Jones is about to become a national punching-bag for failing to even reach the NCAAT with the presumptive most-talented player in college basketball and a top 5 recruiting class. why not salvage the good (the talent) and stem the negative perception that is going to come to the program at the end of this season. I think the right coach could come in and have LSU be a competitive team next season. Doing so could obviously help recruiting. For whatever reason, this year's team has quit on their coach. Why let the program sink to rock-bottom before trying to right the ship?
Very solid response.
Up Vote..
For the record I find it hard to imaging the powers that be to make a decision to move on from JJ after this season. Not that they shouldn't I just don't think they will have the guts to.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:03 pm to LR2RedStick
Monty Williams
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:12 pm to HarrisLetsRide
quote:He's coaching at a school in the best conference in college basketball, has won two conference championships in a row, controls his own destiny to win a 3rd this year, and has a fantastic recruiting class coming in. The only thing missing is a deep tournament run, hopefully something that can be rectified this year.
I still can't figure out why Bennett is thought to be a pipe dream?
UVA is in the heart of basketball country. With continued success, UVA can and should be a basketball school. LSU will always be a football school.
In terms of money, I believe UVA would match any offer made. They certainly can afford to do so.
The only link between Bennett and LSU is the fact his wife is from Baton Rouge. Perhaps that's a huge draw for her and the family, but that seems a half court shot at the buzzer attempt to make a legit connection to LSU. Besides, Charlottesville is a much much much better place to live than Baton Rouge, and if Mrs. Bennett ever feels homesick, I'm sure she can afford to fly to Baton Rouge for a weekend with her husband's $2 Million + salary.
At this point, UVA's biggest threat to losing Bennett is likely the NBA. Wisconsin is second. LSU doesn't factor into the equation.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:25 pm to ellessuuuu
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Johnny Jones Replacements by ellessuuuuBrad Underwood would be huge.
How old is he?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:02 pm to Tiger Ugly
He's 52.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:20 pm to LR2RedStick
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Johnny Jones Replacements
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:57 pm to MetArl15
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by MetArl15
Good post, I agree with basically all of that. But I am curious about just how good your recruiting is and will be. Cause that's really the only thing I think may wear on him, having to compete with UNC, Duke, Lville and NC St in recruiting. My guess is most kids at those schools never really gave UVA a real look. TB may not give a shite about that and that's respectable, but it's really the only angle I can think of to make him look elsewhere. That and I don't think UVA has LSU money "if" it came down to that. But that's a big arse IF if LSU were to show that kind of commitment....but I agree, TB is not a likely candidate at LSU, I just think he should be. Y'all have a helluva coach!!
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