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Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:08 am to 304tiger
Time for a controlled salary cap
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:12 am to 304tiger
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Most of what I've seen at LSU in truly NIL, like Campbell's John Deere ads or even Myles Brennan's fast food ads
Thats not how other big programs are utilizing it though.
There will have to be a better structure or it will fall apart.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:23 am to Magnus
Nothing short of pay to play bribes.
None of us would recognize any of these recruits if they walked right in front of us on the LSU campus.
None of us would recognize any of these recruits if they walked right in front of us on the LSU campus.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:23 am to 304tiger
No it’s clearly pay to play, but it’s not really something the NCAA can stop.
Pro teams generally don’t have to worry about hillonoire fans offering huge chunks of money in endorsements to get a player to their favorite NFL team.
they also have a collective bargaining agreement and a draft.
College sports are a wild phenomenon where people will spend a ton of money to better a team they have 0 equity in beyond emotional equity.
Pro teams generally don’t have to worry about hillonoire fans offering huge chunks of money in endorsements to get a player to their favorite NFL team.
they also have a collective bargaining agreement and a draft.
College sports are a wild phenomenon where people will spend a ton of money to better a team they have 0 equity in beyond emotional equity.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:34 am to 304tiger
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This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:57 am to bstew3006
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If they truly want to have NIL and not Michigan’s pay for play with Underwood, there needs to be a rule that no HS recruit / Freshmen receive any NIL deal until after their first season.
Does NIL apply to high school athletes? Meaning, can players get NIL money while they are in high school from "useage of name, image, and likeness"? Like the Buga Nation stuff that Fournette's family had to stop while he was in high school.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:02 pm to 304tiger
There's zero chance this ends well for anybody. Its gonna drive fans away from college sports and ultimately take money back out of the athletes hands when its all said and done.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:03 pm to fr33manator
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There need to be caps on how much they can get paid
How would you legally tell someone what they can and cannot make based on their name, image, and likeness considering the NCAA has already lost this?
I agree its completely pay for play and not what was originally intended in the spirit of NIL. I think had the NCAA been proactive and put guidelines in place once this became inevitable instead of burying its head up its arse, continuing to fight in court, losing, and then just letting it become the wild west allowing schools to find loopholes like the collectives you'd have had a better shot at keeping this from flying off the rails...but here we are.
The only way to maybe reign it in is once CFB eventually becomes NFL Lite there be some type of agreed upon CBA but by then everything you loved about this sport is basically dead anyway
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:29 pm to Kracka
Yes, high school athletes can make NIL deals. Had to sit through a meeting with my kid this past year before the season started. The only "rule" the school said was that the athlete can't utilize the schools name, image, logo, jersey, etc without written permission.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:38 pm to 304tiger
Make them sign 3 year deals with a 4th option to get NIL deals. It will slow the portal crap and the money down. You wont pay 12m for a kid and he not pan out because it goes both ways he has to stay and your stuck with him. They have to fix this crap and fast. It wont take 20 years, the game is done as we all know and love in 5.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:56 pm to USAFTiger42
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There was more integrity with bagmen than this new crap.
Gawd, this is SO true.
As much as I hated Bama's Barber, this new reality is so much worse. At least when the bagmen had to hide in the shadows we still had chances at blue-chip players. Now, any school with a billionaire alum that has more pocket money than brains can buy a dream roster, and to hell with the integrity of the sport.
At this point, I'd go back to bagmen in a heartbeat over the mess we have now.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:05 pm to Dotarian
I remember thinking when this was all under the rug, I want to know the nuts and bolts of how we recruit and what it’s really like.
In hindsight, Now that it’s out there for the world to see, I can safely say I didn’t want to know.
At least back then nobody knew the market value of a high profile recruit. Now everybody knows and it just drives that going rate up and up and up to the point that it’ll price out even the most worthy of traditional contenders
In hindsight, Now that it’s out there for the world to see, I can safely say I didn’t want to know.
At least back then nobody knew the market value of a high profile recruit. Now everybody knows and it just drives that going rate up and up and up to the point that it’ll price out even the most worthy of traditional contenders
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 3:22 pm to bratch40
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The only "rule" the school said was that the athlete can't utilize the schools name, image, logo, jersey, etc without written permission.
Did they want a piece of the proceeds if he did use the school name, image, logo or jersey?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:18 pm to Magnus
His ego.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:23 pm to Magnus
quote:Of course it’s pay for play just like everyone with common sense expected. What you’re seeing is the entire reason the NCAA never allowed it to begin with. The lines are easily blurred and unless a business, player, or coach is dumb enough to put “play for us to get this deal” in writing then there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
i thought NIL was to give players cash for likeness, jerseys sales, sponsorships, etc...seems like it's pay for play hidden behind the name NIL
Posted on 12/3/24 at 4:26 pm to LSUShock
quote:They always had that opportunity, they just couldn’t be an NCAA athlete if they chose that route. That’s where the “free market” argument falls apart.
free market opportunity for a college athlete to capitalize on their personal brand the same way their non-athlete peers could.
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