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re: Odds for Cox, Deculus, Ingram, Gaye etc to return?

Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33975 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:25 pm to
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would the NCAA allow for a "Covid Exception" to him counting against the 25 since it was a weird year and he is returning to the program he left?


That’s your decision right there. If they give a waiver, then we get a guy with talent back to help with our numbers situation. If they won’t, then he’s going to have to stay at TCU or find a home somewhere in the G5.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
112910 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:27 pm to
The whole OL should come back.
Deculus has no shot in the pros. His playing days are over after he leaves LSU hopefully with a good degreee.
Ingram would be like a 5-7 round guy. Very unlikely to stick just like Charles.
Rosenthal ain’t ready for the NFL
Liam also has no shot at the NFL
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33975 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:29 pm to
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Why would Brooks count towards the 25? Did he enter the portal? Sorry, but it has been crazy trying to keep up with everything this year.


This is kind of a gray area in the rules. There is an exception for JUCO that if a guy returns to your program, he doesn’t count against you again. However, it is clearly defined as 2 year schools, so the NCAA would have to grant an exception. But they have been pretty lenient this year due to COVID, so it’s worth a shot.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:33 pm to
I definitely agree that if he’s not counted against the 25 it’s a no brainer. His floor is being an ace special teams player and pass rush specialist.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19307 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:51 pm to
I think Ingram’s draft stock is higher than some think. I don’t think he comes back
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4980 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
The way our o-line performed this year it would be a VERY BAD idea for them to leave and not take advantage of the opportunity to improve their stock. Cuz they aint getting drafted
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5830 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:03 am to
Ingram and Deculus will both get drafted
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7698 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:39 am to
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a poster on here is good friends with him from high school and confirmed that there is smoke to Brooks potentially coming back


Oh frick yes. If our new defensive coordinator is worth half a frick, we’ll be lights out on D next year
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 4:36 am to
I don't think he's well-suited to be a tackle. I think he would look a lot better as an interior guy.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 4:37 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61157 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 6:14 am to
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Ya think? They guy had ONE great game (vs. MSU) and everyone on here anointed him a first round pick. Since that time he has been good for maybe one good play here or there, but certainly not consistently good enough to be a high draft pick.

i think he has played a good 4 man front DE, But I think he would benefit from a full regular season
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Why are we (what feels like) the only school who has to accept that guys who are 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th rounders or UDFAs that can’t improve their stock are just gonna leave early?


You think Cox is a 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th rounder???

He is at worst an early 2nd round pick and with his skill set could sneak into the first round.

He’s played CFB for 4 or 5 years now. Why would he stay
He’s shown this year that he can hold his own in the SEC. he has nothing left to prove in college.

He should go get paid and no one should question it.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4838 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:52 pm to
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-I saw the thread earlier about Cox could be returning, but I believe his stock is pretty high already


If we're talking draft stock, every player on this LSU defense could benefit from another year. This year's defensive performance did not help anyone's draft stock. That's for damn sure.
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:04 pm to
Nobody returns, everybody declares O is too incompetent to play for.

Some transfer
Some declare for draft
Some pick up rugby or Aussie Rules
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36051 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:13 pm to
Hasn’t Ingram been suspended for a few games in the past? Not sure he’ll wanna come back.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17471 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:24 pm to
If you give out 350-1 on all of those I may put down 10 on all.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34951 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Cox i see leaving but if he comes back he could move up to an early 2nd type of player


McShay has him at No. 34 overall right now.

Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11986 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:42 pm to
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You think Cox is a 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th rounder???

He is at worst an early 2nd round pick and with his skill set could sneak into the first round.


I wasn't talking about Cox specifically but about all the juniors that leave us annually to go on to be middle round picks or below. Just from last year: Jacob Phillips, Thad Moss, and Saddiq Charles all left to be 4th round or lower picks. Those guys all would have helped us a ton this year.

As for Cox, I don't think he is the guaranteed 2nd rounder that you are portraying him to be. I also don't think I'd blame him if he left since his situation is unique.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:59 pm to
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I wasn't talking about Cox specifically but about all the juniors that leave us annually to go on to be middle round picks or below. Just from last year: Jacob Phillips, Thad Moss, and Saddiq Charles all left to be 4th round or lower picks. Those guys all would have helped us a ton this year.

As for Cox, I don't think he is the guaranteed 2nd rounder that you are portraying him to be. I also don't think I'd blame him if he left since his situation is unique.

The 3 guys you picked don't help your case. All 3 are on NFL rosters, and while Charles was a 4th rounder, Phillips was a 3rd rounder. Moss was different because of all the rehabilitation he had to do just to get on the field that one season, and he is on IR right now. Coming back wouldn't have helped him or the team at all since we had Gilbert for most of the season.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11986 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:58 pm to
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The 3 guys you picked don't help your case. All 3 are on NFL rosters,


That's not the point. Etienne at Clemson, Najee Harris, Alex Leatherwood, Devonta Smith, and others at Bama would all be on NFL rosters this year but they came back to compete for a natty and to improve their draft stock.

Sure some guys could leave early and make an NFL roster but why do other schools convince their kids to come back and work on their craft while our guys leave?

The one year we convinced a few guys to return for their senior year we field the greatest team in college football history. Do you think that Rashard Lawrence and Kristian Fulton wouldn't have been NFL guys had they left early?

The point is that we are the only school that consistently throws up our hands and says "well he'll make a roster as a 5th rounder so he should go pro."
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10834 posts
Posted on 12/18/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Ingram and Deculus will both get drafted


Ingram will, but if he stayed and showed much better consistent effort game to game he would be drafted higher in 2022. Deculus is not an NFL tackle and does not have the power to play guard, where is he getting drafted?
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