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re: Rick Neuheisel's Bowl Idea
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:14 pm to KC Tiger
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:14 pm to KC Tiger
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perhaps the early season bowl games could be played as a “pre-season” game and not count towards your record.
In this scenario you’d see more opt outs via “coaches decision”.
No one’s dudes would play very much.
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:18 pm to Sheriff Brackett
I'd prefer to break up the superconferences.
Sugar Bowl: SEC
Orange Bowl: Big Eight
Cotton Bowl: SWC
Peach Bowl: ACC
Rose Bowl: B1G vs PAC
Fiesta Bowl: At large
The Big East champ and top G5 champ get assigned to NY6 bowls based on seeding.
Sugar Bowl: SEC
Orange Bowl: Big Eight
Cotton Bowl: SWC
Peach Bowl: ACC
Rose Bowl: B1G vs PAC
Fiesta Bowl: At large
The Big East champ and top G5 champ get assigned to NY6 bowls based on seeding.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:50 pm to jcole4lsu
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We are creating a "bowl matchup" kickoff classic for every P4 team to start the season.
you’re taking college football away from days that are traditionally full of college football.
and instead of them being spread out across multiple weeks, they’ll all be on the same weekend. many of the games happening at the exact same time as each other.
and that is a terrible idea.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:00 pm to jcole4lsu
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its an expanded kickoff classic.
No the idea is clear, the part that doesn’t make sense is matchups being based on achievements the year prior in the modern CFB landscape.
This is probably the dumbest idea I have ever heard for CFB. I would just forfeit it & not show up, doesn’t count anyway.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:08 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Why are people assuming that this doesn't count towards the regular season? Is it because of the term "bowl"? It's the first game of the season. Call it a "bowl" or whatever.
The whole point of this is to make bowls relevant again and to have the top teams play each other to start the year and play tougher and more entertaining matchups.
That's what people want to see, and it will force the better teams to play tougher opponents to start the year and not just schedule cupcakes.
It's no different than having an arbitrary preseason rating system where Ohio State and Texas are 1 and 2 to start the year based off of last season's results and incoming squad.
The whole point of this is to make bowls relevant again and to have the top teams play each other to start the year and play tougher and more entertaining matchups.
That's what people want to see, and it will force the better teams to play tougher opponents to start the year and not just schedule cupcakes.
It's no different than having an arbitrary preseason rating system where Ohio State and Texas are 1 and 2 to start the year based off of last season's results and incoming squad.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:10 pm to Sheriff Brackett
I prefer the idea of them being played week 13 (conf chap week). All bowl eligible teams not playing in a conf champ are allowed to play in one.
Bowls can bid on teams all year, teams can commit when they want, and it’s just another added data point before judging the 12-16 for cfp.
That makes almost al of them matter a hell of a lot more than they do now. conf champs as well, teams could be penalized for losing (which they should be). Nobody would’ve sitting at home benefiting.
Bowls can bid on teams all year, teams can commit when they want, and it’s just another added data point before judging the 12-16 for cfp.
That makes almost al of them matter a hell of a lot more than they do now. conf champs as well, teams could be penalized for losing (which they should be). Nobody would’ve sitting at home benefiting.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:11 pm to Nutriaitch
There are obviously weeks during the regular season where you have multiple games on at once that are good matchups.
In this day in age, you can have multiple games being showed at once. It's not that big of a deal. You can spread out most of the lower tier games early in the week and then get to the bigger bowls and better matchups.
In this day in age, you can have multiple games being showed at once. It's not that big of a deal. You can spread out most of the lower tier games early in the week and then get to the bigger bowls and better matchups.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:13 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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Why are people assuming that this doesn't count towards the regular season?
Because people in the thread have suggested as much. It’s never gonna happen. This is TV filler type silliness.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:20 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Would never happen. Teams that didn’t get to play in that would complain. Games couldn’t count towards record due to those teams having an extra game. If games don’t count then many coaches would sit a lot of stars most of the game and then it equates to a preseason NFL game which nobody wants to watch
Posted on 12/31/25 at 1:56 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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Stanford Steve talked about it on some podcast where he said Rick Neuheisel's idea was to play the bowl games at the beginning of the season.
So 36 bowl games over about 3 days? Yeah ESPN isn’t going to pay for that, and they won’t all be broadcast like they are now. That in turn immediately makes all these smaller bowls completely irrelevant and they would lose their sponsors and conferences wouldn’t get bowl revenue money.
The reason that ESPN pays to broadcast these games is because they can put a game on TV on a random Tuesday night in December. Bowl sponsors like it because they get national advertising of the bowl with their name on it.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:13 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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There are obviously weeks during the regular season where you have multiple games on at once that are good matchups.
sure it happens. but rarely more than 2 such games somewhat overlapping.
now you’re talking about the entire power 4 (and obviously a few top and G5) all playing those types of games in a 48 or so hour period.
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In this day in age, you can have multiple games being showed at once. It's not that big of a deal. You can spread out most of the lower tier games early in the week and then get to the bigger bowls and better matchups.
i’m not opposed to somehow forcing those types of games to be scheduled.
i’m opposed to taking football away from us during a time period when football should be on the TV.
People with time off during holiday season. Food, family, and college football.
and for some reason everyone here seems to be hell bent on getting rid of that and reducing it to only 4 games (8 remaining playoff teams) total this week.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:15 pm to Sheriff Brackett
It is a free country and I love capitalism so if a local chamber of commerce wants to partner up with a sponsor to bring in 2 teams and 15-20k fans to fill hotels, I got no problem at all. I will always watch or check in on the New Orleans Bowl and Independene Bowls and hope they do well. It truly bums me out if the Sugar Bowl is not a sellout.
The REAL problem, as a fan of the sport, is rewarding 6-6 or 5-7 teams with bowl games. They really do cheapen the concept and whole experience. Did y’all know Miss State lost 7 of their last 8 and are going to a bowl?
Would watching TCU - USC in a kickoff classic be any more compelling that watching them in the Alamo Bowl last night? Tennessee vs Illinois??
We can be disappointed the prestige of playing in a bowl game is gone, but playing in a bowl game is never “meaningless”. I learned that when Burrow ran over to jaw at the UCF player during the Fiesta Bowl. The rest of the team saw that and stuff like that adds up to what the 2019 season became.
The REAL problem, as a fan of the sport, is rewarding 6-6 or 5-7 teams with bowl games. They really do cheapen the concept and whole experience. Did y’all know Miss State lost 7 of their last 8 and are going to a bowl?
Would watching TCU - USC in a kickoff classic be any more compelling that watching them in the Alamo Bowl last night? Tennessee vs Illinois??
We can be disappointed the prestige of playing in a bowl game is gone, but playing in a bowl game is never “meaningless”. I learned that when Burrow ran over to jaw at the UCF player during the Fiesta Bowl. The rest of the team saw that and stuff like that adds up to what the 2019 season became.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:51 pm to Sheriff Brackett
The Citrus Bowl in Orlando on Aug 29th at noon suddenly sounds a lot worse than Houston and the Texas Bowl at night in a dome.
I cant even imagine the astroturf in the Sun Bowl at 2 pm in El Paso.
I cant even imagine the astroturf in the Sun Bowl at 2 pm in El Paso.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:57 pm to Sheriff Brackett
I said the same thing on here over a month ago and was down voted to oblivion. Like it or not if bowls survive long term this is what will have to happen. Turn them into kickoff games.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:52 pm to Tarpon08
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In this scenario you’d see more opt outs via “coaches decision”. No one’s dudes would play very much.
That would be ok. Much like NFL preseason. It would be (in essence) a week Zero game so everybody could go into the season with real-world experience under their belt. How much starters played would be strictly up to the coach.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:56 pm to Sheriff Brackett
That is easily the stupidest idea I've ever heard
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:00 pm to jcole4lsu
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its an expanded kickoff classic.
I frickin hate those and so glad we didn't play one this season or won't next. You spend the entire off season without football and instead of opening your tailgate your team get's shipped to some fricking NFL stadium to play the first game of the season... it's lame as frick. Seasons need to kick off on campus..more of the playoffs need to be on campus. Quit dousing the magic of college football by playing it in generic NFL venues... except mid bowl games... those kinda belong there
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:05 pm to Sheriff Brackett
There are 36 standalone bowl games + 11 CFP games (including 5 bowls).
Reduce standalone bowls to 12.
After 1st round CFP, either incorporate 4 losers into bowls or play each other in a bowl.
1st 2 teams out of CFP in a bowl or are paired with 2 CFP 1st round losers.
Fewer bowl games will make them more meaningful. Using the CFP rankings to determine who gets a bowl invite.
Reduce standalone bowls to 12.
After 1st round CFP, either incorporate 4 losers into bowls or play each other in a bowl.
1st 2 teams out of CFP in a bowl or are paired with 2 CFP 1st round losers.
Fewer bowl games will make them more meaningful. Using the CFP rankings to determine who gets a bowl invite.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:10 pm to Sheriff Brackett
75% of guys on this board this time last year were screaming for LSU to cancel the Clemson game and schedule a rent a win. Now people are taking this goofy idea seriously.
The only way to “fix” bowls are make the playoffs and don’t watch the other ones.
The only way to “fix” bowls are make the playoffs and don’t watch the other ones.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:11 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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It's the first game of the season. Same risk as in any other game. It's no different than when Jacobian Guillory tore his Achilles vs. Nicholls State in 2024 in the second game of the year.
It’s not the same at all. Not every team makes a bowl. So you’re saying the reward for having a good season is to add extra game for the next season that increases both the risk of a loss and injuries? Why would any school agree to that?
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