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re: So was Bo Pelini really that bad?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 12:51 am to seabrisket
Posted on 9/9/21 at 12:51 am to seabrisket
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 1:05 am to des4271
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There’s a common denominator with 2 different coordinators but yet the defense yields the same shite product. The players are making the same damn mistakes from one coordinator to the next, so I’m going with the players.
With our recruiting I can be pretty certain it's not the players.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 1:13 am to Scoob
The question was about Pelini. I partly agree that O is to blame but when you make the same mistakes over and over again for 2 different coordinators, that is most likely on the players. You can’t tell me that Pelini and Jones don’t know or don’t teach gap integrity/ assignment and reading run/pass keys. I don’t think it’s 100% on the players but because of the repeated blunders, I give the majority of the blame to them. Discipline yourself and get in the film room.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:45 am to des4271
quote:Well, I guess you can say it's the players...
The question was about Pelini. I partly agree that O is to blame but when you make the same mistakes over and over again for 2 different coordinators, that is most likely on the players. You can’t tell me that Pelini and Jones don’t know or don’t teach gap integrity/ assignment and reading run/pass keys. I don’t think it’s 100% on the players but because of the repeated blunders, I give the majority of the blame to them. Discipline yourself and get in the film room.
Myles Brennan would look like shite running the Wishbone. Technically it's on him.
These linebackers look just as out of place, trying to run whatever defense is schemed. Are they all missed evaluations in recruiting, or are we trying to plug them into something they completely don't understand, and may not be the right physical attributes for?
BTW, coaches have to adjust scheme to talent. Barry Switzer at Oklahoma changed from the Wishbone, ran the I and Pro Set offense when Aikman was there. When he got hurt, they went back to the Wishbone. And won a national title.
*Lesson 1: if you are going to accomodate a particular player (like Aikman), you have to put him in a system he can play
*Lesson 2: if you've been running a particular system a long time, the majority of the team may be better molded to that system, and perform better in it than in a different one.
OU with Aikman wasn't challenging for a title, even though he eventually was the #1 pick after transferring to UCLA. OU with Holloway, they were, and won.
LSU, their defense may be better suited to run a similar scheme as what Aranda did. May not be as obvious as an offensive scheme, but that doesn't mean the players still don't fit. There are NFL All-Pro 4-3 linebackers that would be useless in a 3-4 scheme, and vice versa. I think we're looking at the college equivalent.
Just another example- I think Cordale Flott could play in the NFL, in a Tampa 2 defense. Short zone. Stick him in man, he tries, but he's toast beyond 20 yds. Clone of Jason David.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:46 am to seabrisket
Yes. Move on.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:52 am to seabrisket
Yes, he was that bad. UCLA would have put up 50.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:53 am to seabrisket
It is possible for pelini and o both just not being very good.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:55 am to seabrisket
Yes
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:57 am to seabrisket
He was bad, but the players made up for it by blowing coverages and inability to tackle.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:59 am to seabrisket
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So was Bo Pelini really that bad?
Bo was Scott Woodward's guy. And yes, the defense looks just as bad... as you have the same personnel i.e. other than Stevens who could really tackle on last year's defense outside of the internal DL?
Now even Stevens isn't there.
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Washington athletic director Scott Woodward and Nebraska coach Bo Pelini are old friends, both with ties to LSU.
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The Nebraska coach and UW athletic director Scott Woodward are good friends owing to mutual ties to LSU, and Woodward admits that had there been a chance, he would have talked to Pelini when looking to hire a coach following the 2008 season.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-huskies/washington-ad-scott-woodward-says-nebraskas-bo-pelini-could-have-been-on-his-hire-list/
Don't worry Scott Woodward is at practice showing everyone how it's done now.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:02 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 1:14 pm to Scoob
Where I agree that some guys don’t fit certain schemes, as a player you don’t just lose your gap assignments and stop reading keys and this is what is happening with Clark with 2 different coordinators.
Where I agree with Clark in particular, he wasn’t an interior LB when aranda was there but you don’t just forget your keys and gap assignments, that’s lack of discipline. Therefore I put a lot of the blame on him for some of those big plays because he was totally out of place. This has nothing to do with playing out of your position, it has to do with not doing your job.
Where I agree with Clark in particular, he wasn’t an interior LB when aranda was there but you don’t just forget your keys and gap assignments, that’s lack of discipline. Therefore I put a lot of the blame on him for some of those big plays because he was totally out of place. This has nothing to do with playing out of your position, it has to do with not doing your job.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 1:30 pm to seabrisket
We needed a scape goat because just saying we lost over 30 starters/contributes from the year before wasn’t good enough I guess. We were down to playing guys on injury reserve and a cb that was on Nichols the year prior. It only takes one major mismatch for a coach like leach to hurt you. The fact of the matter was he didn’t relate to the kids, was probably a dick and we wanted someone to blame regardless that the best DC in the country would have struggled under his circumstances.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 1:51 pm to seabrisket
No. Seeing as Bo didn't have a full Spring Practice to teach and implement his system due to the Covid, it makes this seasons defensive coach's work unexcusable.
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