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re: Watching 2024 clemson
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:08 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:08 am to somethingdifferent
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Again, I know LSU lost to USC last year
I do think this Clemson team is better than that USC team.....but not by as much as they are hyped to be IMHO.
And I do think that our defense is SIGNIFICANTLY better talent wise than it was last year but I don't necessarily think that game last year was lost on D. The offense missed out on a couple of big opportunities, the first drive and then late when Nuss missed an open 3rd down pass that could have kept the drive alive, run some clock and finished that game.
Of the 3 losses that Kelly has had that one last year was really the most unacceptable. The two FSU games they played a week zero game and to me that was the difference and the second they were just better than us.
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Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:15 am to skullhawk
quote:The pieces were there and that's why LSU started the season ranked really really high. It's not quite analogous either because clemson isn't in the SEC and they definitely have some holes on the roster compared to LSU, new D coordinator.
Imagine some breaking down LSU film in 2018 trying to make projections for 2019
Moreover, when knuckleheads like Herbstreet went on and on about how much Burrow "improved" from 18 to 19, it was stupid. IIRC, Burrow led the nation in completion percentage beyond 10 yards, including better than Haskins who OSU chose over Burrow. Again, for anyone watching closely and for people who aren't a tool like Herbie, the signs were there
quote:I wouldn't go that far. There's some value
Analyzing Clemson games from last season is a waste of time
quote:That game was a prime time home game for a 6-1 team trying to hold on to a playoff spot.
You’re also getting another level of effort in this one as opposed to a mid season conference game against Louisville
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:20 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:Absolutely agree. Yes it stings LSU lost to florida and a&m on the road but let's be honest, those weren't scrub teams. And getting trashed by bama at home stings the most but they certainly aren't a mid level team either.
Of the 3 losses that Kelly has had that one last year was really the most unacceptable
As much as I don't like those 3 losses and how they affect BKs future compared to LSU expectations, only the USC loss was equivalent to clemson's losses and the USC game LSU had quite a few things going against the tigers (new coordinators, first year starter, neutral site, etc.)
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:27 am to somethingdifferent
What is this bullshite analysis. Did you drink 13 beers in 4 hours and then spew your home team thoughts. No one asked your small brain to watch some arbitrary matchup from last year. Maybe next time u should try watching app st and then logging out of TD
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:29 am to somethingdifferent
I watched the Clemson/Pitt game. Pitt had lost Holstein the week before and it was Nate Yarnell's first start of the season. Yarnell threw for 350yds.
Clemson was very inconsistent offensively. They would rip some big plays and then sputter. They went up 17-7 the first half and then couldn't put a drive together.
Defensively they put a lot of pressure on Pitt, but the secondary gave up a lot of plays as well. Pitt also had some success on the ground as well.
Klubnik made some really nice plays and certainly has escapability. The D needs to play gap sound which we didn't last season.
Pitt came back to take a 20-17 lead and Klubnik had a 50 yd run with 1:16 left to make it 24-20. Pitt was able to move down to the 25 and take a couple shots but Clemson picked a final desperation throw.
Pitt lost their last 4 games without Holstein.
Clemson looked very erratic last season, similarly to LSU. Defensively they were better, but they also had poor defensive games which reflects in their overall defensive ranking.
LSU finished 9-4, Clemson 10-4. Honestly if we flipped schedules I could easily see LSU with a better record.
For the next game it really comes down to which team improved the most in the offseason because I don't think there was much daylight between the two teams last season.
Clemson was very inconsistent offensively. They would rip some big plays and then sputter. They went up 17-7 the first half and then couldn't put a drive together.
Defensively they put a lot of pressure on Pitt, but the secondary gave up a lot of plays as well. Pitt also had some success on the ground as well.
Klubnik made some really nice plays and certainly has escapability. The D needs to play gap sound which we didn't last season.
Pitt came back to take a 20-17 lead and Klubnik had a 50 yd run with 1:16 left to make it 24-20. Pitt was able to move down to the 25 and take a couple shots but Clemson picked a final desperation throw.
Pitt lost their last 4 games without Holstein.
Clemson looked very erratic last season, similarly to LSU. Defensively they were better, but they also had poor defensive games which reflects in their overall defensive ranking.
LSU finished 9-4, Clemson 10-4. Honestly if we flipped schedules I could easily see LSU with a better record.
For the next game it really comes down to which team improved the most in the offseason because I don't think there was much daylight between the two teams last season.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:32 am to StingleyJr4Heisman
quote:What did I say that's inaccurate? Other people itt have agreed with several things I said genius
Did you drink 13 beers in 4 hours and then spew your home team thoughts
quote:And no one asked you to comment. Why are you even itt? Feel free to step away from the computer thingey and go back to the worksite, Jobox
No one asked your small brain to watch some arbitrary matchup from last year
quote:What does this even mean? You seem angry and not smart
Maybe next time u should try watching app st and then logging out of TD
I'm amazed that someone can make this response, look at the other quality responses itt and not think "damn, I think I'm retarded"
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:37 am to BayouCowboy
quote:I would say this is the biggest reason LSU is going to lose but from everything the coaches have said about Perk, I think he makes at least a LITTLE difference in negating this weakness. I don't think Klub is going to be running all over the place with Perkins spying him, a la '23
Klubnik made some really nice plays and certainly has escapability. The D needs to play gap sound which we didn't last season
Good comments and I though pretty much the same thing
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:40 am to somethingdifferent
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I don't think he's capable of consistently making the quality of next level throws that Nuss is
Being in the same tier is not being better, and making those types of passes is only part of the equation, and it is not the only thing that puts a college QB in the top tier for that season of college football.
I'll also point out that some people were saying the same thing about Jayden Daniels going into 2023 and how Nuss should be starting.
And I do believe that Nuss is the better QB, to be clear.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:46 am to somethingdifferent
Your analysis is just “I WATCHed Klub in one game and I FEEL like he isnt as skilled as Nuss.” I stopped reading after 4 paragraphs because your post is just an uncoordinated spew of thoughts. Which is why I thought you must have been drunk. Guess I was wrong. Yikes.
Over half this thread is pumping the brakes on you diminishing Klub as a worse QB at every opportunity. Not supporting your tiny brain thoughts.
I said to watch app st instead because you mentioned that yourself, not sure if you remember. I’m saying you would have been better off watching that and shutting up.
No I didn’t have to comment, but you didn’t have to post either. If I can take 30 seconds of my day and do my part to dissuade shitheads like you from passing your hurt feelings as analysis, then I will. So again. Next time your tiny brain develops a thought, just stop yourself, watch the app st game instead, and log out of TD. Not that hard
Over half this thread is pumping the brakes on you diminishing Klub as a worse QB at every opportunity. Not supporting your tiny brain thoughts.
I said to watch app st instead because you mentioned that yourself, not sure if you remember. I’m saying you would have been better off watching that and shutting up.
No I didn’t have to comment, but you didn’t have to post either. If I can take 30 seconds of my day and do my part to dissuade shitheads like you from passing your hurt feelings as analysis, then I will. So again. Next time your tiny brain develops a thought, just stop yourself, watch the app st game instead, and log out of TD. Not that hard
Posted on 8/9/25 at 8:49 am to somethingdifferent
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I would say this is the biggest reason LSU is going to lose but from everything the coaches have said about Perk, I think he makes at least a LITTLE difference in negating this weakness. I don't think Klub is going to be running all over the place with Perkins spying him, a la '23
Good comments and I though pretty much the same thing
This worries me the most, but I do think that's something we put a lot of effort towards and hopefully fixed in the offseason. Pyburn controls the edge better than Savion did who would get sucked inside on plays and lose the edge.
Whit would also get caught inside a lot and get caught in traffic. Better DT play helps with that and we have a much stronger rotation. Perk is at a better position at star. Payton can create havoc, but I don't know how he is at edge defense so I can't comment.
Haulcy the key IMO. he is such a good safety in run support. Something we didn't have last season. I think before the season ends, fans are going to be in love with this kid.
Klubnik was under pressure quite a bit and I like our front 7 better than Pitt's. Keeping Klubnik in the pocket will be key. Do that and we have a good shot to disrupt his passing. Do that and if the OL can at least be moderately effective, I like our chances.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:09 am to somethingdifferent
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You must have missed where I said I've watched him quite a bit. Go break down his tight window throws or throwing people open and tell me if he's as good as Nuss was last year. He's not.
I’m not saying he’s got the arm talent like Nuss, but as a college QB, they are extremely close imo. Also, some of those tight window throws turn into interceptions. You can’t ignore that part of it. It’s the bad that comes with the good.
quote:
If you watch closely the level of throws Nuss is capable of making, sure. Again, in terms of purely passing the football, I didn't judge Klub on that one game.
So do you just ignore the running ability and interceptions. You are admitting that you are selectively only looking at what you want to look at.
If you really believe everything you are posting I’m assuming you have placed a fairly large bet on LSU to win by 10+?
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:29 am to somethingdifferent
quote:Nuss is to lol
Klubnik is a try hard
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:12 am to mdomingue
quote:I don't think Klub is in the same tier as Nuss. But at the college level right now, no one is. The next level down are all the types of guys I listed before - great runners, inconsistent passers. That's where Klub is
Being in the same tier is not being better
quote:At the college level, sure. At the next level, no way.
making those types of passes is only part of the equation
Nuss makes better throws against better competition and doesn't have to rely on his feet like Klub does, a lot
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:20 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
I don't think Klub is in the same tier as Nuss. But at the college level right now, no one is.
What an absurd thing to say.
4,102 total yards, 63% completion, 43 total TD, 6 INT
4,014 total yards, 64% completion, 32 total TD, 12 INT
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:21 am to LSBoosie
quote:
What an absurd thing to say.
4,102 total yards, 63% completion, 43 total TD, 6 INT
4,014 total yards, 64% completion, 32 total TD, 12 INT
I'm told you have to look beyond the stats.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:22 am to StingleyJr4Heisman
quote:Nope. You're not too bright are you. Go read the OP again
Your analysis is just “I WATCHed Klub in one game
quote:This doesn't surprise me at all. You seem to have a jr high level education
I stopped reading after 4 paragraphs because your post is just an uncoordinated spew of thoughts
quote:Not true itt or on the board in general. Klub is good. He's in the top tier of QBs. He's just not as good of a passer as Nuss.
Over half this thread is pumping the brakes on you diminishing Klub
quote:Why?
I’m saying you would have been better off watching that
quote:It's an LSU sports message board for LSU sports messages. You know, discussing things that relate to LSU sports. If you don't want to read it and act like an arse, then get back in your roll bar truck and watch the local hog rodeo.
you didn’t have to post either.
quote:
If I can take 30 seconds of my day and do my part to dissuade shitheads like you from passing your hurt feelings as analysis
Wow. You are a miserable person. Every other post itt was more thoughtful and responsive than yours and you seagull the place up, squawking a bunch of nonsense and crapping all over the place. And BTW, I've been around since 2004 so you aren't dissuading me one bit. I've seen primates like you come and go a million times quote:Ok dad.
Next time your tiny brain develops a thought, just stop yourself, watch the app st game instead, and log out of TD
I know this will probably make your head explode but, why don't you look at the substantive responses itt and try to follow suit. Like actually respond to the comments in the thread instead of this retarded crap you're posting.
Either that or go get another set of truck nutz for your other trailer hitch
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:23 am to BayouCowboy
quote:All of this is great commentary
This worries me the most, but I do think that's something we put a lot of effort towards and hopefully fixed in the offseason. Pyburn controls the edge better than Savion did who would get sucked inside on plays and lose the edge.
Whit would also get caught inside a lot and get caught in traffic. Better DT play helps with that and we have a much stronger rotation. Perk is at a better position at star. Payton can create havoc, but I don't know how he is at edge defense so I can't comment.
Haulcy the key IMO. he is such a good safety in run support. Something we didn't have last season. I think before the season ends, fans are going to be in love with this kid.
Klubnik was under pressure quite a bit and I like our front 7 better than Pitt's. Keeping Klubnik in the pocket will be key. Do that and we have a good shot to disrupt his passing. Do that and if the OL can at least be moderately effective, I like our chances.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:27 am to LSBoosie
quote:Eh. Last year Nuss was better against better competition and didn't have to Fran Tarkenton all over the place to cover up other deficiencies
they are extremely close imo
quote:Klub is even worse at this
some of those tight window throws turn into interceptions
quote:I'm saying that when Klub has faced better competition than Louisville, he's underwhelmed way more than Nuss. Nuss has made some incredible next level throws against much better competition
You are admitting that you are selectively only looking at what you want to look at
quote:It's a team game. It's not Nuss vs Klub
If you really believe everything you are posting I’m assuming you have placed a fairly large bet on LSU to win by 10+?
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:28 am to Iam_PrinceAkeem
quote:Definitely disagree because Nuss has proven he can make those plays more consistently
Nuss is to lol
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:29 am to LSBoosie
quote:I've already commented on this. Put the stats away and look at level of competition and quality of throws. Like actually watch the games. Not browse ESPN in between seasons
What an absurd thing to say.
4,102 total yards, 63% completion, 43 total TD, 6 INT
4,014 total yards, 64% completion, 32 total TD, 12 INT
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