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Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:29 pm to
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For someone who sucks so badly, it's shocking he's a 3 year starter



I know right. This Aranda guy must be a complete idiot.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:30 pm to
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Would you like to look up career stats? Toliver was downright bad last season.


Post them.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Post them.


you sure? It won't end well...
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4378 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Would you like to look up career stats? Toliver was downright bad last season


Not talking about last season, I'm talking about last game.

quote:

This shows so much. Some fans hate Donte because he's all over his man but doesn't get his head around, others say his man is wide open all the time! How do they both work? For someone who sucks so badly, it's shocking he's a 3 year starter


The man coverage problem was in the last game... first drive.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:48 pm to
He was all over his man and gave up one completion. Greedy actually gave up 3 completions
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:52 pm to
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you sure? It won't end well...


Ya, they aren't as far apart as you think and donte was thrown at more so his stats should be better.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 2:55 pm to
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donte was thrown at more so his stats should be better.


my gosh!! You people are insane!!! You have an excuse about everything! So you think when Toliver was a Freshman he wasn't thrown at a ton?

I have a question for you...do you like Dave Aranda?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:00 pm to
You going to post them or not?
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:09 pm to
He is the best we have
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34909 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:12 pm to
Jackson has a a few bad moments thus far, but nothing where you say he MUST be benched. Williams has been excellent. Tolliver is just the odd man out right now.

Don't screw up to get suspended. Otherwise, you risk the guy behind you (Williams here) taking your spot
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11976 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:19 pm to
Because Jackson isn't good at football.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59607 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

For someone who sucks so badly, it's shocking he's a 3 year starter
yeah, no kidding.

I think he's hated on so much because his size and style of play makes completions look much worse than they are. He's a good DB.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:23 pm to
Why are we starting threads calling out players after winning two lopsided games?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Because Jackson isn't good at football.



Based on what?

What do you see that Raymond and Aranda are missing.

Please let us know. Maybe we need to hire you as the D.C.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Why are we starting threads calling out players after winning two lopsided games?


Because our fan base is loaded with dipshits who would rather lose with their favorite backup playing than win with someone they don't like (for no real reason) playing.

And apparently they also think they know more about football and evaluating players than Dave Aranda.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11926 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Then the coaches arent doing their job of making him understand
I hate when people say this crap. The best coaches in history can't always make certain players understand. The success of a player always ultimately starts with the player himself. Aranda is the DC. Are you saying he's not doing his job as well as he could be?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:52 pm to
Please point out where I specifically said Dave Aranda and my response was pointed to the other poseter talking about poor form and whatever bs they were saying. The knock on toliver wasnt poor form it was turning his head, which should be an easy thing to fix.

Should be
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:55 pm to
Still waiting for the cherry picked stats that are so easy to find.

FWIW, y'all should read my first post in this thread.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6018 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:57 pm to
Because our fans are idiots
CB is the hardest position to play in today's game and a portion of our fan base thinks a CB sucks if he get any passes caught on him
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 4:05 pm to
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You going to post them or not?


Sorry bro, got a life. Here ya go:

Donte Jackson:

26 career games, 71 tackles, 10 passes defended, 3 ints, 1 FF

Kevin Toliver:

19 career games, 56 tackles, 6 passes defended, 1 int

Averages per game:

DJ: 2.7 tackles, .38 passes defended, .11 ints
KT: 2.9 tackles, .31 passes defended, .05 ints
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