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Posted on 6/5/22 at 6:54 am to
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 6:54 am to
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This will be an adjustment where parts of the country will feel it and others really won’t.


I agree with this. I think the markets in southern states will be fine like: FL, TN, TX etc. but other markets will definitely start to see some correction.
This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 6:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 7:06 am to
It has seemed that areas like FL, TN, and TX are the ones with the most inflated markets due to Covid-era WFH moving.

Could be that places where they moved from have less dramatic decreases and the areas where people moved into may feel the crunch.

Like another poster said, we're in unprecedented times. The inflationary policies post-2009 led to a decade of reckless behaviors and the Covid-era behaviors changes really poured 100x uncertainty on top of that powder keg.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84170 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 7:08 am to
Lots of reductions happening in Texas…. Seeing 10-20k price cuts the last few weeks like it’s going out of style. Plus a crap ton more on the market for extended time.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 7:56 am to
No let downs here in Most of Fl. as of yet. I just think Fl will always be a final destination for People tired of cold weather places and just looking for a place to relax with all its beaches, golf , fishing etc.. 2007/2008 were the worst i have ever seen down here though. Those were scary times.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 8:05 am to
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This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by themasterpater
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 8:14 am to
I think it's an interesting scenario where everyone who refinanced at 3% will just stay in their house even longer and further contribute to the inventory shortage. If my monthly note was based on house prices 2+ years ago at 3% you wouldn't catch me moving unless life demanded it. Most who did a refi are probably sitting it out for another 5 years due to conventional wisdom on recouping the closing costs

I do see housing prices cool as higher interest rates and inflation affect affordability.

People are bitching about interest rates, but historically 5% is not high, just recency bias has everyone believing that. Easy money is likely dead for a while.

The justification for a crash would only seem to be based on what goes up must come down, but there are no fundamentals pointing to that.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 8:18 am to
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This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 9:25 am to
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The question is how much are they going to have to reduce to get a sale? How long do you let a house sit on the market before you reduce your price?


That’s the question, inside the loop within a particular search criteria, what was a total of 20 in any given time, 90% of which on the market for 1-2 days before pending is now 30 or so on the market and most weeks old with reductions.

The last 3-4 weeks has seen a major slowdown in Houston.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7145 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:07 am to
This is a great example of what is occurring:

Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21516 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:45 am to
Things aren't really slowing down out here in my area of CT. Here is the Zillow chart for our house. It's like watching BTC knowing its going to come crashing down any minute.

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49816 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:05 am to
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Unlike last housing crisis people can actually afford the homes they are living in

Until millions start losing their jobs within the next year or year and a half.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25099 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:22 am to
In my neighborhood, we have more houses on the market for the longest I can recall them sitting in the last two years.

With that said, most of these have been on the market for 10-14 days now whereas they were selling in the first 3 days for well over ask. I consider this being our local market to moving back into equilibrium instead of a crash.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16260 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:26 am to
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I do see housing prices cool as higher interest rates and inflation affect affordability.


No doubt. New mortgages are down month over month and year over year.

What I see is low inventory but those that hit the market sell fast.

The low inventory is indicative of the higher rates as people figure they’ll just stay put rather than sell and take on a higher rate.

This market is very different than 08. The floor fell out on that market. This is a slow adjustment. This market is what markets should do.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6507 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:12 pm to
A correction would be nice considering the way things are. My aunt and uncle bought their home in Houston for $135k in 1996 which would be around $250k today due to inflation. They listed for $665k which is around $300/SF lol. Been on the market for two whole days and they are inundated with requests to tour.

My uncle is a realtor in Katy and he said people are coming in from HCOL areas and wrecking the market here. Even though prices are higher here than usual, they are still cheap compared to your NYCs, Seattle, San Francisco, etc. so they can put in an offer $50k over and still come out ahead.

edit: aunt and uncle sold their house in two days at overasking lol
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 8:43 am
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:25 pm to
I believe you, but what I don’t understand is how are there any people left in Cali at this point?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6507 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Lots of reductions happening in Texas…. Seeing 10-20k price cuts the last few weeks like it’s going out of style.


Saw a house near us that was clearly listed overpriced at $750k and after a week on the market slashed to $699k lol
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2993 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:51 pm to
I feel the same as some of you guys. My GUESS is that we don’t see a “crash” similar to what happened in 08. Instead, I think we see a gradual depreciation over a 2-4 year span.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:46 pm to
The Z estimate on my house continues to climb - I put almost zero faith in what they say my house is worth - but the fricking county has assessed me for not far from they think it's worth. I have a hard time believing that my house has doubled in value in 5 years.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:37 pm to
A lot of variables going on that have not happened in 40 years - inflation, high gas prices. DEMs are trying to push for easing of loans to those who cannot afford... sound familiar?

I lean toward yes, but not as bad as 2008 >
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19740 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Will the housing market "crash"?

It depends on what you call a crash. People will not be moving out of homes with 2.5% interest. At some point banks, mortgage companies, builders will get desperate and we all know what happens when they can't make money.
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