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re: Indiana Football Transfer Strategy
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:54 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:54 pm to Indefatigable
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HS recruiting is now meaningless.
It is going to become a feeder system between all levels of college football. It will become rare if a player stays at a school for all 4 years.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:05 pm to KCSunshine
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Average age Indiana Starters is 23
And no one else can get them but BYU?
The low-hanging fruit passed around the Internet to explain or belittle Indiana's success is getting old [sic].
Posted on 1/16/26 at 5:41 pm to KCSunshine
Well yeah a roster full of 22-25 year olds vs. rosters full of 18-20 year olds.
Same thing happens almost every year in March Madness with some random mid major making it to the sweet 16 or further and the media makes it seem like some wholesome story of ragtag underdogs playing with good ole fundamentals when it’s a bunch of 23 year olds that have been in college for 5-6 years and half of them are internationals and they are just physically more mature than the 18-19 year olds that the top programs have in their lineups.
Same thing happens almost every year in March Madness with some random mid major making it to the sweet 16 or further and the media makes it seem like some wholesome story of ragtag underdogs playing with good ole fundamentals when it’s a bunch of 23 year olds that have been in college for 5-6 years and half of them are internationals and they are just physically more mature than the 18-19 year olds that the top programs have in their lineups.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 5:58 pm to KCSunshine
What you’ll have is something closer to college basketball. The top dogs will still recruit the super talented kids that will be pro in 3 years, just like the top teams in hoops still get one and dones, and sometimes that will be the winning formula for that season, but it will be offset by other teams who go after guys who are older, more mature and play out their eligibility, even if long term only one team has loads of nfl talent.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:41 pm to KCSunshine
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Take “experienced” starters from Group of 5 or lower leagues vs 4 /5 star guys who not starting at Power 4 teams that were high stars coming out of high school
seems like common sense, not rocket science, so i'm not sure why everyone is acting like this guy is re-inventing the fricking wheel or something
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:55 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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The low-hanging fruit passed around the Internet to explain or belittle Indiana's success is getting old [sic].
Not as old as Indiana's roster.
Seriously though, I haven't seen anyone using this stat to "belittle" Indiana. But when you have guys on your team that were playing college football when Bryce Young was still in high school, it's worth pointing out.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:27 pm to Portcityblues
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Add good coaching to that along with the physical and emotional maturity that comes with older players
Fritz did that with grad transfers at Tulane. He did it more for ‘locker room’ leadership rather than on field. It did seem to help.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:42 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And no one else can get them but BYU? The low-hanging fruit passed around the Internet to explain or belittle Indiana's success is getting old [sic].
You’ll defend anything a Big Ten program does but you’d be the first to bitch if Alabama or Georgia started doing this en masse.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:49 pm to KCSunshine
People forget that LSU’s 2003 championship team was lead by a 24 year old QB who had a pro baseball career and a 24 year old DT that had worked as a prison guard. And don’t forget Joe Burrow was 23 when he won a Championship at LSU. Having some maturity with some young talent helps out a lot.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:56 pm to Suntiger
Exceptions, not the rules.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:43 pm to Marktastic86
Can you link the rankings from oldest to youngest?
You guys are posting here without context while insinuating that Indiana is considerably older than everyone else.
You guys are posting here without context while insinuating that Indiana is considerably older than everyone else.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:26 am to KCSunshine
Sleeping in Bloomington tonight (wife's reunion for her varsity sport...no pics) and there is a ton of electricity here. Like you would think this was a football first school. Cookiecakes with Cig's head are unique. Stadium lit up as if there's a game. Maintenence removing sculptures. Press shooting footage of the bus rolling down I-69 going to the airport... then the 787 taking off. Bloomington PD barring drinks from being served in glass on Monday night. Even hotels are packed just so people can be in town for it. They will be absolutely crushed if Miami wins.
We were here during the final days of Knight. The nutcases almost burned down the University President's house. They tore up a random tree after beating Duke in the sweet 16 and deposited it on the other side of campus. This town may not be the same after Monday night. Classes start up again on Tuesday and I highly doubt anyone (aside from nerds) will be showing up for 9am courses.
As for this thread... I'm really interested in how Cig is building the program. It's not sustainable and he's not taking the layups with building a baseline through HS recruiting. My sons former teammate along the line is holding offers from (and taking visits to) tOSU, LSU, VA Tech, PSU, Ole Piss, etc. Both of his parents were IU athletes (his dad in football). It's probably one of the easiest recruiting effort to take yet there's radio silence. He's losing the last of his JMU guys after Monday and I'm a bit concerned what the next two years look like.
We were here during the final days of Knight. The nutcases almost burned down the University President's house. They tore up a random tree after beating Duke in the sweet 16 and deposited it on the other side of campus. This town may not be the same after Monday night. Classes start up again on Tuesday and I highly doubt anyone (aside from nerds) will be showing up for 9am courses.
As for this thread... I'm really interested in how Cig is building the program. It's not sustainable and he's not taking the layups with building a baseline through HS recruiting. My sons former teammate along the line is holding offers from (and taking visits to) tOSU, LSU, VA Tech, PSU, Ole Piss, etc. Both of his parents were IU athletes (his dad in football). It's probably one of the easiest recruiting effort to take yet there's radio silence. He's losing the last of his JMU guys after Monday and I'm a bit concerned what the next two years look like.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:01 am to KCSunshine
I wonder if this would be as effective in basketball considering it’s a much less physical sport.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:21 am to CatfishJohn
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I wonder if this would be as effective in basketball considering it’s a much less physical sport.
It would be highly effective in baseball, if there was any money in it. College would easily pay more than A or AA ball.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:15 am to KCSunshine
just because they are productive in the G5 doesnt mean they will be productive at the P4 level. Cignetti obviously has an eye for spotting talent having coached at that level for awhile
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:18 am to Indefatigable
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HS recruiting is now meaningless.
that's like saying the NFL draft is meaningless and teams should only build through free agency.
it will prove to be far more cost effective building the roster mostly through high school vs spending millions in the portal every year.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:33 am to TheePalmetto
quote:Who is this?
rosters full of 18-20 year olds.
I’ve already shown heavy majority of all othet top ranked teams are all average age of 22
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:34 am to lsupride87
No you haven’t. You haven’t cited a single reliable source on anything and literally no one trusts your word nor your spreadsheets.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:35 am to cubsfan5150
quote:We have already given context and they don’t give a shite
Can you link the rankings from oldest to youngest? You guys are posting here without context while insinuating that Indiana is considerably older than everyone else.
Actual average age of all semifinal teams
Indiana 23.2
Oregon 22.3
Miami 22.6
Ole miss 22
I don’t have the time to do all the rankings but that was the semi final
Teams
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:41 am to KCSunshine
Kind of reminds me Stony Brook’s 2012 baseball team. Almost nothing but seniors and older juniors who came from jucos if I’m remembering right.
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