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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:32 pm to
This is just funny. So everyone who was cheering for Kobe all those years and then crying about Kobe are now clutching their pearls about Bauer. The difference is Bauer never had to pay hush money and won in court unlike Kobe.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24784 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:32 pm to
It’s not enough to argue about at this point, and maybe these offseason moves actually end up biting all these teams in the arse

My displeasure with it is premature and hypothetical
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63357 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:35 pm to
I don't understand the issue with the Yankees either. This is pretty much business as usual for them and what they've done is nothing on the scale of the Mets. This really only centers on one team.

Like I said, as a fan of a team that doesn't play them I think it's fascinating to watch and will be interesting to see what happens. I'm sure Mets fans are having a blast following it, I don't blame them.

My only concern if I were one of them is if Cohen gets bored/doesn't get the instant result he wants, does he keep it flowing. Perhaps he does, but if he doesn't there's a scenario where it gets very ugly very fast.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149958 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:38 pm to
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and maybe these offseason moves actually end up biting all these teams in the arse
or maybe they dont. Who knows. What we do know is this is infinitely better for sport than the absolute disgrace that was the winter of 2018
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:41 pm to
Still laughing because the Giants passed on Correa because of his ankle injury from 2014. Like wtf
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56175 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Astros are a middle third team when it comes to market size, but the Angels are inept, the White Sox are mostly inept, and the A's aren't even trying.



LOL at the Astros comparison to the A’s


The A’s are a small fraction of the SF-Oakland-San Jose area. As an Astros fan, you must know the A’s are the bottom of the barrel in MLB merely by exposure.
Posted by POCKET
Member since Nov 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:45 pm to
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What we do know is this is infinitely better for sport


Most people in this thread are saying they do not like this for baseball
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41012 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:45 pm to
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This is just funny. So everyone who was cheering for Kobe all those years and then crying about Kobe are now clutching their pearls about Bauer. The difference is Bauer never had to pay hush money and won in court unlike Kobe.


Kobe was a god in that town and the face of the franchise with multiple rings at the point. Bauer is a good SP, but he had a FIP under 4 once in the last five years and it wasn't even with the Dodgers. That's the difference. Might be a different story if it was Kershaw, but Bauer probably isn't worth the baggage for the Dodgers.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:51 pm to
MLB only has 6 owners worth less than 1 billion (Brewers, Marlins, Rays, Reds, DBacks, & Rockies) only 1 owner worth less than 500 million (Reds)

Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24931 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:54 pm to
How many are owned by corporations?
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:56 pm to
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Angels: Arturo Moreno – $3.6 billion. (Forbes link)
Astros: Jim Crane – $1.4 billion. (Forbes link)
Athletics: John Fisher – $2.6 billion. (Forbes link)
Blue Jays: Rogers Communications, chairman Edward Rogers III – $11.5 billion. (L.A. Times link)
Braves: Liberty Media, chairman John Malone – $8 billion. (Forbes link)
Brewers: Mark Attanasio – $700MM. (L.A. Times link)
Cardinals: William DeWitt Jr. – $4 billion. (L.A. Times link)
Cubs: Ricketts family – $4.5 billion (Forbes link)
Diamondbacks: Ken Kendrick – $600 million. (L.A. Times link)
Dodgers: Guggenheim Baseball Management, controlling partner Mark Walter – $5 billion. (Forbes link)
Giants: Charles B. Johnson – $5.8 billion. (Forbes link)
Guardians: Dolan family – $4.6 billion. (L.A Times link)
Mariners: John Stanton – $1.1 billion. (L.A. Times link)
Marlins: Bruce Sherman – $500MM. (L.A. Times link)
Mets: Steve Cohen – $15.9 billion. (Forbes link)
Nationals: Lerner family – $4.9 billion. (Forbes link)
Orioles: Peter Angelos – $2 billion (L.A. Times link)
Padres: Peter Seidler – personal net worth unknown, Seidler Equity Partners estimated net worth of $3 billion. (ESPN link)
Phillies: John Middleton – $3.4 billion. (Forbes link)
Pirates: Bob Nutting – $1.1 billion. (L.A. Times link)
Rangers: Ray Davis (co-chairman with Bob R. Simpson) – $2.2 billion. (Forbes link)
Rays: Stuart Sternberg – $800MM. (L.A. Times link)
Red Sox: John Henry – $3.6 billion (Forbes link)
Reds: Robert H. Castellini – $400MM. (L.A. Times link)
Rockies: Richard L. Monfort – $700MM. (L.A. Times link)
Royals: John Sherman – $1.25 billion. (L.A. Times link)
Tigers: Ilitch Holdings – $3.8 billion (L.A. Times link)
Twins: Pohlad family – $3.8 billion (Forbes link)
White Sox: Jerry Reinsdorf – $1.7 billion (Forbes link)
Yankees: Steinbrenner family – $3.8 billion (Forbes link)
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24931 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:01 pm to
So Blue Jays and Braves. Awesome.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66254 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:11 pm to
Also Kobe was pre #metoo and pre Harvey Weinstein. It’s a different time now.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103933 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:46 am to
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LOL at the Astros comparison to the A’s


It's just a fact that the bay area is a bigger market than Houston. Also a fact that the A's are the red headed step child of the bay area, and it's tough to gather any support for a team not trying to win. The Astros didn't have shite for attendance when they were tanking, but it has paid off.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:04 am to
Dodgers are going to release Trevor Bauer
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:10 am to
LINK
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Ranking the 115 U.S. based franchises in the “Big Four” professional sports leagues (NBA, NFL, NHL and Major League Baseball) by Nielsen TV market size. As of 2022, the top five markets remain the same as in previous years — New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia and Dallas-Ft. Worth.


Houston #7
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 8:11 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103933 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:18 am to
Maybe I was looking at bad info... Wikipedia link that has Houston 8th behind the bay area.

Toronto is pretty high as well even though they aren't on these lists.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10838 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:21 am to
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Reds: Robert H. Castellini – $400MM. (L.A. Times link)

The poorest owner in the league as well as the cheapest. That's why he needs to sell the team.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103933 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:07 am to
Looks like Conforto to the Giants.

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Michael Conforto, Giants reportedly agree to a 2-year deal with an opt-out after 2023, per MLB Network Insider Jon Heyman.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2291 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:22 am to
Taylor Roger's to the Giants on a 3 year deal
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