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re: Negro League stats to count
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:01 pm to TTOWN RONMON
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:01 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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All the BS extra inning crap of placing a man on 2nd base is also a joke
You mean the Manfred Man(n).
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:07 pm to Schmelly
quote:what were the AL and NL for the first 120 years of professional baseball
It’s 2 different leagues. They didn’t play each other.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:10 pm to AUFANATL
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the record books say Babe Ruth went 2-5 against the Red Sox with a HR and 3 RBIs on June 2, 1929
The Yankees played the White Sox on June 2, 1929. And Ruth wasn’t even in the lineup.
Idiot.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:13 pm to lsupride87
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what we know about the races now
Expand on this for me
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:14 pm to LCLa
I guess that's one way of pandering.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:17 pm to LCLa
Nobody read this thread title out loud in the voice of A’s announcer.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:20 pm to Girth Donor
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Is that Josh Gibson?
Yes
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:29 pm to Radio One
He’s saying black people are better athletes
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:32 pm to DBG
Total records I honestly don’t have an issue with at all. I do have a massive problem with this though:
Gibson's .974 slugging percentage in 1937 becomes the season record, and Barry Bonds' .863 in 2001 dropped to fifth, also trailing Mules Suttles .877 in 1926, Gibson's .871 in 1943 and Smith's .870 in 1929.
Do people understand how averages work? If you play 50 less games, it is astronomically easier to have a higher average. This is asinine to give Gibson every freaking hitting average record while playing 70 less games a season than Bonds.
Gibson's .974 slugging percentage in 1937 becomes the season record, and Barry Bonds' .863 in 2001 dropped to fifth, also trailing Mules Suttles .877 in 1926, Gibson's .871 in 1943 and Smith's .870 in 1929.
Do people understand how averages work? If you play 50 less games, it is astronomically easier to have a higher average. This is asinine to give Gibson every freaking hitting average record while playing 70 less games a season than Bonds.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:37 pm to DBG
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He’s saying black people are better athletes
I’d like to hear it from him, but I *think* he’s saying a *lot* more than that, though perhaps quite unknowingly.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:20 pm to LCLa
The negro league obviously had some talent but was not nearly as serious and organized as mlb. Record keeping was definitely suspect. And it was more of a spectacle like savanna bananas or something. They had multiple female players that were supposedly dominant which I find hard to believe.
This is just more rewriting history to pander to the woke mob. Probably the same people making a big deal about Caitlyn Clark scoring more against girls than pistol Pete against males.
This is just more rewriting history to pander to the woke mob. Probably the same people making a big deal about Caitlyn Clark scoring more against girls than pistol Pete against males.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:33 pm to LCLa
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Negro League stats to count
Just when you thought wokeism was done destroying whats left of America’s former national pastime
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:42 pm to LCLa
They've counted for a while. 1920-48.
I wish they would extend it a few more years because Aaron would be ahead of Barroid again.
I wish they would extend it a few more years because Aaron would be ahead of Barroid again.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:57 pm to lsupride87
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It’s easy to see with what we know about the races now the negro league was possibly better, or at least as good as the white league, thus making white only records look hollow.
The negro leagues had women play in them. They embellished stats to sell tickets and make more money.
The various leagues definitely had some good players, but they were borderline legitimate at absolute best.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:28 pm to LCLa
Over at the Seamheads Negro Leagues database, a dedicated few have combed through newspapers and scorebooks, photo albums and microfiche to piece together the most complete statistical record of the Negro Leagues to date.
The main researchers since 2020 have been fighting to get cobbled together stats from newspapers and basically "word of mouth".
Here's the main researchers quote:
. “I grew up with the distinct impression that no statistics could ever be compiled, that it was often unclear what happened at all, and that it was more or less impossible to find out anything for sure about many of the players.”
You know MLB is going to accept the " findings" of a few guys at the Negro League database without question or any vetting.
The main researchers since 2020 have been fighting to get cobbled together stats from newspapers and basically "word of mouth".
Here's the main researchers quote:
. “I grew up with the distinct impression that no statistics could ever be compiled, that it was often unclear what happened at all, and that it was more or less impossible to find out anything for sure about many of the players.”
You know MLB is going to accept the " findings" of a few guys at the Negro League database without question or any vetting.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 2:35 am to LCLa
MLB fans have always been obsessive about stats and comparing players over the decades has been interesting because you felt the game had some continuity and integrity despite some rule changes. Now they’re going to throw all that away to include teams that were playing semi-pro teams and teams with women on them? Including Negro scores is an answer to a question that the VAST majority of us never asked. Of course the nauseating pandering to the least successful minority must not be questioned
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:08 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Probably the same people making a big deal about Caitlyn Clark scoring more against girls than pistol Pete against males.
I like Clark and have defended her on this site but the scoring title is really a bridge too far. Apples and Oranges.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:36 am to LCLa
Good so satchel paige is now the rightful record holder for career wins
Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:47 am to lsupride87
quote:Because being a supreme athlete gives you a giant advantage in football and basketball. It’s not nearly as drastic in baseball. Baseball is more about skill rather than pure athleticism.
If baseball was the number 1 sport in America for black people, you don’t think they would also have the majority of pro players? Why not? They do so in both football and basketball
Black people have, in general, an athletic advantage over white people. That advantage is less important in a sport like baseball. And because white people have a much larger population than black people, the odds are that the larger talent pool would be a bigger advantage than the athletic advantage black people have.
Black people may have been able to over-represent in pro baseball relative to their population size due to athletic ability, but it would be nowhere near 70% if the league like it is in football and basketball. They wouldn’t even come close to half of the league. Maybe 30% max if I was guessing.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:53 am to WestCoastAg
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what were the AL and NL for the first 120 years of professional baseball
Mer-ger
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