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re: So the Dodgers bought another championship...
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:19 am to Morpheus
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:19 am to Morpheus
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It’s the first time an MLB team has won back to back titles in 25 years. I’d say you getting ahead of yourself. The Yankees have been doing this shite for a 100 years. At least Ohtani is likeable.
And teams like the Cardinals had to use the farm system (created by said Cardinals) to compete against the same two franchises to get their championships.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 10:29 am to Vandergriff
As much as I hate the Dodgers, It's professional baseball... Not every highest paid teams win it all..
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:14 am to Vandergriff
For the overall health of the game I would entertain your point and give it consideration. But in today’s world I’m going to come back to every other team being able to do this same thing.
I’m not a fan of deferred salaries. Regardless if my team benefits from it. But they’re legal, for the time being. I’d prefer to have a cap that everyone plays within. But I don’t know if that will help the teams that already aren’t spending all that much on their rosters. Someone else mentioned a salary minimum which is interesting and would benefit the lower spending teams.
I’m not a fan of deferred salaries. Regardless if my team benefits from it. But they’re legal, for the time being. I’d prefer to have a cap that everyone plays within. But I don’t know if that will help the teams that already aren’t spending all that much on their rosters. Someone else mentioned a salary minimum which is interesting and would benefit the lower spending teams.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:19 am to 632627
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You gotta give the dodgers credit for creating a destination that big names want to join
They have a winning culture that players have grown up in. A front office that is probably the best in American pro sports. A very solid minor league system and great fan support. As a player that should pique your interest.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:32 am to Figgy
The Dodgers best players:
Ohtani, Betts, Freeman, Yamamoto, Sasaki, Snell, and Glasnow.
None of them grew up in the Dodgers system. Not one. Everyone of them is a deferred salary FA acquisition.
And the Dodger fanbase is notorious for arriving late and leaving early to their games. That's been a thing for 40 years plus. They only support winning teams.
Ohtani, Betts, Freeman, Yamamoto, Sasaki, Snell, and Glasnow.
None of them grew up in the Dodgers system. Not one. Everyone of them is a deferred salary FA acquisition.
And the Dodger fanbase is notorious for arriving late and leaving early to their games. That's been a thing for 40 years plus. They only support winning teams.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:34 am to Vandergriff
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Everyone of them is a deferred salary FA acquisition.
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Betts
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Glasnow
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:47 am to Vandergriff
Dude, you should go outside. Play with the kids. Do something positive. Life will go on. It’s just a game and the Dodgers will still be there to obsess over next season and beyond. You’ve already proclaimed us champions for next year.
Have a good day!
Have a good day!
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:03 pm to WestCoastAg
Betts has 115 million in deferred salary from 2033 to 2044.
You are correct about Glasnow.
You are correct about Glasnow.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:04 pm to Vandergriff
Was he acquired via free agency?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:07 pm to Vandergriff
Yet all that money Toronto was a little choke job away from winning it.
Most money doesn't always guarantee success. Having arguably the goat and an elite pitcher sure helps.
Most money doesn't always guarantee success. Having arguably the goat and an elite pitcher sure helps.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:26 pm to DallasTiger11
A few thoughts. I'm glad this is hurting the Astros fans. This moment is created because rather than act contrite, they decided to double down on the Dodgers choking narrative. This death star is in part, because their team gamed the system for two titles. 2017's title created a lot of this.
On "buying" titles. Do other teams have players working for free? Did anyone care that the Blue Jays had a payroll of nearly 100 million more than the Mariners the last round? Where was the "buying AL Titles" talk at? Astros couldn't afford Springer? Dodgers couldnt afford Seager, Machado, Trea Turner, Max Scherzer. They let a former NL MVP walk. The Dodgers spend money, but they also spend it wisely. (Maybe not Kirby Yates or Tanner Scott, who was definitely F-U money move).
The Dodgers have an organization everyone wants to play for. Max Muncy is on a team friendly deal. Freddie Freeman came over under market. Teo took a one year deal to play for LA. Why? Because the Dodgers are the best run organization. When Travis D’Arnaud showed he could play but didnt have much PT with the Dodgers, they basically sent him to the Rays so he could get the PT again. They are paying for Andrew Toles.
On the "loophole" (insert Princess Bride meme about not understanding the word). There is no loophole, the rules are simple and in the collective bargaining agreement. Every team uses deferred money in contracts, that's why it's there. The Dodgers just had a unicorn on their hands. And the "loophole" is preventing owners like Hal Steinbrenner (yes, I know he doesnt get money from LT) from pocketing Dodger luxury tax overages and fixing up his Tuscan estate rather than investing in teams.
On a salary floor and ceiling. The Dodgers are so well run, this wouldn't really be a stopping point. Pointing to the NFL as everyone does, the Steelers have the smallest payroll in the NFL at 258,000,000ish. Could you imagine Bob Nutting having to pay that sort of money on his team? C'mon, he's not agreeing to that. The only parties demanding on limiting player, the talent, payroll are fans of teams who still simp for billionaire owners. Yeah, it sucks. But you should be pushing MLB into kicking out owners using their teams as a writeoff.
On the Dodgers going bankrupt over deferrals, the ownership group just bought the Lakers for 10 billion dollars. The Dodgers likely just paid off the 460ish owed to Ohtani's fund.They run their team like their do their mutual funds, effectively.
Go Dodgers!
On "buying" titles. Do other teams have players working for free? Did anyone care that the Blue Jays had a payroll of nearly 100 million more than the Mariners the last round? Where was the "buying AL Titles" talk at? Astros couldn't afford Springer? Dodgers couldnt afford Seager, Machado, Trea Turner, Max Scherzer. They let a former NL MVP walk. The Dodgers spend money, but they also spend it wisely. (Maybe not Kirby Yates or Tanner Scott, who was definitely F-U money move).
The Dodgers have an organization everyone wants to play for. Max Muncy is on a team friendly deal. Freddie Freeman came over under market. Teo took a one year deal to play for LA. Why? Because the Dodgers are the best run organization. When Travis D’Arnaud showed he could play but didnt have much PT with the Dodgers, they basically sent him to the Rays so he could get the PT again. They are paying for Andrew Toles.
On the "loophole" (insert Princess Bride meme about not understanding the word). There is no loophole, the rules are simple and in the collective bargaining agreement. Every team uses deferred money in contracts, that's why it's there. The Dodgers just had a unicorn on their hands. And the "loophole" is preventing owners like Hal Steinbrenner (yes, I know he doesnt get money from LT) from pocketing Dodger luxury tax overages and fixing up his Tuscan estate rather than investing in teams.
On a salary floor and ceiling. The Dodgers are so well run, this wouldn't really be a stopping point. Pointing to the NFL as everyone does, the Steelers have the smallest payroll in the NFL at 258,000,000ish. Could you imagine Bob Nutting having to pay that sort of money on his team? C'mon, he's not agreeing to that. The only parties demanding on limiting player, the talent, payroll are fans of teams who still simp for billionaire owners. Yeah, it sucks. But you should be pushing MLB into kicking out owners using their teams as a writeoff.
On the Dodgers going bankrupt over deferrals, the ownership group just bought the Lakers for 10 billion dollars. The Dodgers likely just paid off the 460ish owed to Ohtani's fund.They run their team like their do their mutual funds, effectively.
Go Dodgers!
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:29 pm to Vandergriff
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It's not remotely an even playing field.
It never really has been in MLB since the onset of free agency.
College football is rapidly hurdling down the same path.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:30 pm to mrbug708
It doesn’t matter what the rules are, the Dodgers are always going to be a contender because they know how to consistently do it right, they have since the last decade or so in Brooklyn.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:32 pm to Vandergriff
Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
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"So the Dodgers bought another championship..."
And what do you think college sports is doing now?
Member since Nov 2020
1420 posts
"So the Dodgers bought another championship..."
And what do you think college sports is doing now?
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:41 pm to Vandergriff
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Betts has 115 million in deferred salary from 2033 to 2044.
You are correct about Glasnow.
When the D-Backs won it in 2001, they had almost 250 million in deferred money.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:42 pm to Stamps74
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Other billionaire owners are free to spend more money too
bullshite take. MLB will not let teams operate at or anywhere near a loss for fear of bankruptcy. Owners can't just pump hundreds of millions of their own cash in. Only a handful of teams even have the media deals and income to do anything near what the Dodgers are doing, but none are on par.
Their media deal income, combined with the ability to defer money and guarantee it's availability by setting it aside and letting it grow, is unfair from a competitive balance standpoint and has to go.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:44 pm to blackandgolddude
quote:that every single organization in baseball gets a piece of
Their media deal income
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:53 pm to blackandgolddude
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bullshite take. MLB will not let teams operate at or anywhere near a loss for fear of bankruptcy. Owners can't just pump hundreds of millions of their own cash in. Only a handful of teams even have the media deals and income to do anything near what the Dodgers are doing, but none are on par.
Their media deal income, combined with the ability to defer money and guarantee it's availability by setting it aside and letting it grow, is unfair from a competitive balance standpoint and has to go.
So the reason why teams like the Pirates, White Sox, Rays, Marlins don't spend money is because MLB will not let teams operate that way?
Seems like they should be pressuring them to sell the teams.
Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:22 pm to Vandergriff
How many years have the Yankees had the highest payroll in MLB and not won a championship?
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