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re: Someone explain how NIL is good for the game
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:04 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:04 pm to Antonio Moss
Are you???
Please list all the professional leagues in the last 100 years built on 19-22 year old football players. I mean, there must have been a market for their talents, right? There have been countless entrepreneurs and wealthy businessmen lining up to invest in this untapped market of football entertainment, right?
Oh, wait. No one actually wants to watch these players outside the framework of the emotional appeal of collegiate athletics. No one would tune in or pay to see Jeremiah Smith if he played for the Columbus Knights of the Junior Professional Football League instead the Ohio State Buckeyes. The colleges are the draw, not the players.
I understand if you have the logical depth of an 8th grade girl that it's not fair! The fact is, if this was truly a capitalist transaction, the schools should be charging the players to pay for the privilege of playing like strip clubs that make dancers pay an entry fee.
Please list all the professional leagues in the last 100 years built on 19-22 year old football players. I mean, there must have been a market for their talents, right? There have been countless entrepreneurs and wealthy businessmen lining up to invest in this untapped market of football entertainment, right?
Oh, wait. No one actually wants to watch these players outside the framework of the emotional appeal of collegiate athletics. No one would tune in or pay to see Jeremiah Smith if he played for the Columbus Knights of the Junior Professional Football League instead the Ohio State Buckeyes. The colleges are the draw, not the players.
I understand if you have the logical depth of an 8th grade girl that it's not fair! The fact is, if this was truly a capitalist transaction, the schools should be charging the players to pay for the privilege of playing like strip clubs that make dancers pay an entry fee.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 3:46 pm
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:15 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Oh, wait. No one actually wants to watch these players outside the framework of the emotional appeal of collegiate athletics. No one would tune in or pay to see Jeremiah Smith if he played for the Columbus Knights of the Junior Professional Football League instead the Ohio State Buckeyes. The colleges are the draw, not the players.
This was and is true right now. However, with sports gambling really taking off I’m not sure how long it will be true. The NFL might have a market for feeder leagues tightly associated with each team mainly supported by gaming.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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College football, basketball, and baseball (to a lesser degree) are the only systems in the entire world where people make the argument that people who drive the revenue should be legally prohibited to contract for their services.
Its also the only system in the world where organizations lose money and yet the uneducated public screams that that the participants should be paid millions.
NIL is a joke. These athletes have zero market value without being tied to the school. The vast majority of people watch, attend the games, and pay the athletes way too much because of their love for the letters/logo on the helmet not back of the of the jersey
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:19 pm to TigerAllNightLong
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This was and is true right now. However, with sports gambling really taking off I’m not sure how long it will be true. The NFL might have a market for feeder leagues tightly associated with each team mainly supported by gaming.
I hope you're right. Then we will get college football back, but unfortunately I think you're wrong.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:20 pm to TigerAllNightLong
What I don't get is why the do-gooders and over-enotional types don't focus their angst at the entity responsible for preventing these kids fresh out of high school from making a living at playing football - the NFL. It's the NFL that refuses to let these young men from joining their ranks. The league won't draft or sign any player until they have been out of high school 3 years. Why no uproar?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Johnny Manziel built a stadium
No he didn't. A rabid desperate fan base with deep pockets excited about a move to the SEC built the stadium. The only reason anyone in this world knows his name is because he was given the opportunity to play football at aTm.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:25 pm to TigerAllNightLong
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Please list all the professional leagues in the last 100 years built on 19-22 year old football players.
No one would put up the equity to establish a league to compete with college football when their product is completely subsidized by taxpayers. ETA: if you snapped your fingers and got rid of college football tomorrow, the NFL would have at least one, and probably multiple, leagues underneath its umbrella for these guys.
In every other country in the world, there are leagues under the top professional leagues for development of the younger professionals. But since we attach athletics to educational facilities at an early age, those leagues never developed here.
There is very clearly a huge market for these athletes because the second the Court struck down the prohibition on paying these players, NIL turned into a multibillion dollar industry
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:27 pm to BluegrassCardinal
NIL is not the problem, unrestricted free agency is the problem.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassCardinal
I have no problem with NIL….the transfer portal is a fricking disaster
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:30 pm to InkStainedWretch
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NIL is not the problem, unrestricted free agency is the problem.
The reasonable answer would be some players agreement that best limits on transfers, payments, etc. but college administrators will fight that to the death - not because they oppose it for athletes - but because it would open the door for professors to unionize.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:32 pm to BluegrassCardinal
Millions of dollars that used to be deliverered under the table in secret is now getting taxed correctly. Thats about the only difference. Its not a brand new situation.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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The reasonable answer would be some players agreement that best limits on transfers, payments, etc. but college administrators will fight that to the death - not because they oppose it for athletes - but because it would open the door for professors to unionize.
Then they’re f***ed because the only fix for the portal that the courts would sign off on is a mutual, negotiated agreement with the players.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:53 pm to BluegrassCardinal
I don't think it's a matter of good or bad for the game. NIL was inevitable, but players were always getting paid anyway. I think the transfer portal has been far more transformative to the CFB landscape than NIL.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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There is very clearly a huge market for these athletes because the second the Court struck down the prohibition on paying these players, NIL turned into a multibillion dollar industry
Only because its pay for play now under the guise of NIL. Its obviously being abused which is why the NCAA has partnered with Delloitte going forward to form a NIL clearinghouse.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:02 pm to Al Opecia
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Millions of dollars that used to be deliverered under the table in secret is now getting taxed correctly. Thats about the only difference. Its not a brand new situation.
Yet the media created a narrative that these same players can't afford to go on a date or out to eat to push their agenda.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:15 pm to armytiger96
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Only because it’s pay for play now under the guise of NIL.
So a market for paying 18-22 year old athletes to play college sports?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:41 pm to BluegrassCardinal
It's not NIL you're taking issue with its the NCAAs abhorrent ability to read the room granting all players unbridled free agency on a yearly basis that is the issue.
Paying the players is the right thing to do. Letting them completely run the game with unrestricted free agency yearly isn't.
Paying the players is the right thing to do. Letting them completely run the game with unrestricted free agency yearly isn't.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:44 pm to armytiger96
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Only because its pay for play now under the guise of NIL. Its obviously being abused which is why the NCAA has partnered with Delloitte going forward to form a NIL clearinghouse.
I'm for it, but only if any team is found violating it they should be given the death penalty for a year.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:46 pm to Antonio Moss
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So a market for paying 18-22 year old athletes to play college sports?
You're playing semantics here. A "black" market amongst boosters to gain a competitive edge of course. That market has existed since the day college football was invented.
Remove the schools from the equation and its a market that no one cares about ala USFL and these athletes have zero NIL value.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/1/26 at 2:47 pm to lsufanva
Yes, you’re correct. Good reply, it sums up how I feel about the game. NIL was inevitable, the portal is a disaster
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