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Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:02 pm to ChiGator
For whatever reason, Canada is not producing elite goaltenders.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:03 pm to Cracker
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hockey is not the most popular sport in Canada?
Wut?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:11 pm to ChiGator
US hockey is already better. Has been for about a decade now. Canada has the elites, but America has a much bigger, deeper roster.
ETA: Youth hockey is getting big in southern states. It is very popular throughout Florida and is quite popular in metro Atlanta, Birmingham, and Nashville. 2 of the best players in the world are from Scottsdale, AZ and Orlando, FL.
ETA: Youth hockey is getting big in southern states. It is very popular throughout Florida and is quite popular in metro Atlanta, Birmingham, and Nashville. 2 of the best players in the world are from Scottsdale, AZ and Orlando, FL.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 5:39 pm to Tiger in NY
Youth hockey participation has been growing for over a decade. Depending on where you live, hockey is no more expensive than any other travel sports.
There is one thing on the horizon that may slow the growth of American born NHL players. The new NIL rules in college have now made it so that Canadian Major Junior players, who used to be ineligible for NCAA due to how that league is structured (players get paid a stipend), are now eligible for NCAA.
This will allow NCAA schools to recruit more Canadian kids. The increase in American born NHL players is due to the resources and development players get in college now.
SEC and all Big Ten schools should have hockey programs. It would be awesome.
There is one thing on the horizon that may slow the growth of American born NHL players. The new NIL rules in college have now made it so that Canadian Major Junior players, who used to be ineligible for NCAA due to how that league is structured (players get paid a stipend), are now eligible for NCAA.
This will allow NCAA schools to recruit more Canadian kids. The increase in American born NHL players is due to the resources and development players get in college now.
SEC and all Big Ten schools should have hockey programs. It would be awesome.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 5:59 pm to Speedy G
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For whatever reason, Canada is not producing elite goaltenders.
True. I think all the Canadian travel hockey dads think that Gordyn or Justynn is going to be the next McDavid and don’t want their kid to play goalie.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:12 pm to Warheel
Canada is importing the third world. I don’t think the Sikhs and Hindus care about hockey.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:44 pm to ChiGator
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:46 pm to Cracker
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Nope
What is?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:47 pm to BoardReader
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This same chestnut is trotted out when talking about the future of sports in America all the time, dating back to the mid 1970s. The problem is, that while youth soccer has been the most popular participation sport in the country for over a generation, it has simply abysmal player retention and development
Even a decade ago, if you told the most optimistic US soccer fan that there would be two American-born and raised starters for Juventus, and the best player for AC Milan was an American-born and raised guy from Hershey, Pennsylvania, you would have been called a delusional optimist.
Very interesting about the US hockey stats in the first post. I knew the US youth teams were doing really well but didn’t realize the magnitude of the change in the NHL.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:48 pm to ChiGator
The NHL has 32 teams.
Only 7 are Canadian.
This happened a long time ago.
Canada lost their sport with the Gretzky trade as the NHL went crazy for American expansion.
Only 7 are Canadian.
This happened a long time ago.
Canada lost their sport with the Gretzky trade as the NHL went crazy for American expansion.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:51 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:There has been a significant shift in hockey. Still dont know where the US falls longterm with Canada but there is no reason why it wont surpass Russia and Finland as the clear #2 that truly competes with Canada on a regular basis.
but didn’t realize the magnitude of the change in the NHL.
A decade ago I don't think you'd ever think the US could have a roster like they had last night and that was without Hughes
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:02 pm to Speedy G
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For whatever reason, Canada is not producing elite goaltenders.
This is one of the things I was going to comment on. USA Hockey has a program for developing goaltenders. I forget the exact wording of it but it's geared towards training the kids and targeting the elite players to focus on. You also have the NTDP which is roughly about 20 years old which takes on many of the best of the best born in the country.
That program often puts them on track to be recruited by top NCAA programs, continuing their development without aging them out the way the CHL would, if not just sending kids straight from draft day to expect to be NHL-ready, and failing, The addition of CHL players being NCAA-eligible, I don't know how many of the high-end draft picks there are going to want to go that route, but some day NCAA could become the alternative for many more Canadian kids than there are now.
Last note, next Saturday is try hockey for free sponsored by USA hockey. I only know this because I follow them
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:29 pm to SoDakHawk
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There is one thing on the horizon that may slow the growth of American born NHL players. The new NIL rules in college have now made it so that Canadian Major Junior players, who used to be ineligible for NCAA due to how that league is structured (players get paid a stipend), are now eligible for NCAA.
The growth of college hockey is another huge factor. It is where college baseball was in the 90s. The training and investment into college hockey is completely changing it. Now, many first round picks are playing college hockey and college baseball. That used to never be the case. This is making the game more American, as college alumni can root on their squads. Sacred Heart, UConn, and Arizona State all just built phenomenal new hockey-specific arenas to play in.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:32 pm to artisticsavant
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The addition of CHL players being NCAA-eligible, I don't know how many of the high-end draft picks there are going to want to go that route, but some day NCAA could become the alternative for many more Canadian kids than there are now.
The University of Michigan hockey team had 6 first round picks on it last year (players already selected to have their rights owned by an NHL team can still play in college).
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
lol that has nothing to do with anything I said. California has a higher GDP vs Canada….
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:43 pm to Tiger in NY
NCAA hockey is good when the big-time programs are doing well on a regular basis. So many of them right there at the top this year.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:45 pm to artisticsavant
NCAA has become a better development option vs CHL. Many Canadian players now are going south and paying in college.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:48 pm to ChiGator
Well they aren’t putting rinks in new towns in Canada. US is building 3/4 sheet complexes right now in cities that have never had a rink. Canada has us in development but numbers are favoring the US. Coaching in Canada is legit and we need to keep building or development programs.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 8:10 pm
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