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Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91555 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:23 pm to
Presti has been in this all along. Good for him
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Royce Young @royceyoung The Thunder worked to try and get Paul George on draft night but couldn't put together a package. They've been pursuing for weeks.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24051 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:23 pm to
So that's two teams that offered them 4 first rounders. Amazing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112766 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:23 pm to
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Jimmy Butler and Paul George both to the West?

fricking pencil Cleveland in for 6 more Finals.
You think those 2 leaving their respective teams changed the Cavs odds in any way at all?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59891 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:24 pm to
Oh Larry
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116083 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:24 pm to
They are something. They are talented players Golden state built a super team thru the draft. There are a lot of ways to get there.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116083 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
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You think those 2 leaving their respective teams changed the Cavs odds in any way at all?


I think he was saying PG/JB on a different East team would change the odds
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91555 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

quote: Celtics trade offer for Paul George back at trade deadline, per league source: Brooklyn pick (wound up being No. 1) and 3 other first-rounders. Jeff Goodman, ESPN Insider

Oh You gotta be kidding me
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52807 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
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You think those 2 leaving their respective teams changed the Cavs odds in any way at all?

Neither 5'9 Isiah Thomas nor Derozan will be stopping Lebron James any time soon.

Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24051 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:26 pm to
I thought about that way at first too, but you gotta consider if one of them ends up with Celtics instead. Agreed that it doesn't change if they stay with Pacers and Bulls
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116083 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:26 pm to
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you have basically resigned yourself hoping that your young assets develop to compete in a post lebron eastern conference


Why is this a bad thing? Why flounder trying to make it to the top when you can wait a couple years and have a stranglehold on the conference
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149940 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:26 pm to
they also built their super team because they got lucky as frick when it came to stephs ankles

sure, it could happen, i would just rather be in a position to compete right the frick now than hope i can compete 2 or 3 years from now
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63352 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Why is this a bad thing? Why flounder trying to make it to the top when you can wait a couple years and have a stranglehold on the conference




Agree 100%
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149940 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:28 pm to
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Why is this a bad thing?
because who the frick knows what these celtics young players turn into.
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Why flounder
the celtics with butler and hayward wouldnt flounder
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and have a stranglehold on the conference
at the bare minimum the bucks and sixers have positioned themselves in just as good a spot to compete in a post lebron eastern conference
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14256 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:29 pm to
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WestCoastAg


Honest question:

If PG stays put in OKC and LAL is stuck with a B lister instead of an A lister, how is the DLO trade graded?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149940 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:29 pm to
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how is the DLO trade graded?


this is already graded as a humongous F soooooo i wouldnt want to lop a grade on that scenario
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27975 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:30 pm to
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Why is this a bad thing? Why flounder trying to make it to the top when you can wait a couple years and have a stranglehold on the conference
Because by that time another team can rise up.

This is one of the softest times even for the East. The only team you really gotta compete against is the Cavs, and they are 100% beatable.

If you're not trying to compete in the East now, then you're never going to compete because there is always going to be another good team you must beat.

Waiting for a totally clear path to the Finals is a pipe dream.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116083 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:32 pm to
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because who the frick knows what these celtics young players turn into.


Well that's always a risk. That's a risk with FAs as well. Guys don't always pan out. But with Boston having 372947103 lottery picks in the coming years, someone's bound to work out.

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the celtics with butler and hayward wouldnt flounder


They would be awesome. But Lebron would still have a lot to say about the East. Best case scenario you win the east 50 percent of the time over the next 4-6 years.

If you wait and your picks hit, you could be in Clevelands current position with 7 straight finals appearances or some crazy shite like that.

quote:

the bare minimum the bucks and sixers have positioned themselves in just as good a spot to compete in a post lebron eastern conference


Lebron or Embiid/Greek Freak

Who would you rather go against
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116083 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:35 pm to
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If you're not trying to compete in the East now, then you're never going to compete because there is always going to be another good team you must beat.


Lebron is a generational player. One that's getting older. I'll take my chances in a couple years on his downswing instead of when he's still owning the league.


And I'm not saying they 100 percent shouldn't make moves, just I wouldn't make a move just to rush the process on competing. That time will come with or without George/Butler.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91555 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Mina Kimes @minakimes get you a man that loves you the way danny ainge loves his assets
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149940 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Well that's always a risk. That's a risk with FAs as well. Guys don't always pan out. But with Boston having 372947103 lottery picks in the coming years, someone's bound to work out.

you are more likely to pan out with established nba stars than draft picks
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They would be awesome. But Lebron would still have a lot to say about the East. Best case scenario you win the east 50 percent of the time over the next 4-6 years.
and this is bad? you think the celtics will win the east more than 50 percent of the time in a post lebron conference? cause i dont. i dont know how anyone can actually say that with confidence when we have no idea how the celtics and the other teams in the conference will look like 2 or 3 years from now
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Lebron or Embiid/Greek Freak
well thats one way to put it. another way to put it would be, do you want to challenge lebron in a close to guaranteed equal position or challenge giannis/embiid when you hope youre in an equal position?
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