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re: We now know Belichick is a fraud

Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:37 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72047 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:37 am to
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He did have one winning season without Brady.
He also went 11-5 the year Brady went down in week 2. And went 3-1 when Brady was suspended in 2016 with Jimmy G at QB, probably still makes the playoffs if Brady didn't play the entire year.
Posted by Avante
Member since Oct 2021
1459 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:06 pm to
Where is Vince Lombardi without...

Bart Starr
Jim Taylor
Paul Hornung
Forrest Gregg
Willie Davis
Ray Nitszke
Willie Wood
Herb Adderley

All future Hall of Famers

Where is Bill Walsh without Joe Montana

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80181 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Sure but your theory on protecting Belichek has two glaring weaknesses:
1.) he pushed Brady out. Furthermore, did a shite job trying to keep him happy
2.) he had YEARS to develop a decent back up to Brady. Traded them all away.


3) He was 36-44 in Cleveland and has a losing record in New England. (Post Brady.)

Meanwhile Mike Tomlin managed a .500 season with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges.

This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23851 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:25 pm to
Belichick is not a fraud, he’s a good coach. No crappy coach wins that much even with a hall of famer. Manning, Brees, Aikman, hell look at Marino. Those guys didn’t have the success Brady did.

But I’m just also not sure he’s the best coach ever anymore, take Brady away and he’s closer to avg. HOF coach though? Absolutely
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:37 pm to
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know this may blow your mind but every great NFL dynasty had a hall of fame quarterback. Another crazy idea, it’s easier to win with HOF QBs.

I just want to see a list of all the coaches winning big with scrubs.

This is why a solid argument could be made for Joe Gibbs as the greatest NFL coach of all time. Won 3 Superbowls with 3 different QBs, none of which made it to the hall of Fame.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:47 pm to
i wouldn't call their starting qbs scrubs, but

joe gibbs
marvin lewis
bill parcells
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:18 pm to
Half a game out of first place, in the division, with a rookie qb.

Fraud!
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28477 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:19 pm to
Solid bump
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44573 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:34 pm to
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joe gibbs
marvin lewis
bill parcells




Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5506 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 6:53 pm to
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The Redskins dynasty went to 4 SBs & won 3 without a HOF QB. Gibbs took an 8 year veteran who had never been to the playoffs ( Theismann) & went to 2 SBs. Won 2 more with Doug Williams, Mark Rypien & an NFC Championship game with Jay Schroeder.

Gibbs Came out of retirement & took Jason Campbell & Todd Collins to the playoffs.

I was going to post this if you hadn't. Gibbs won three Super Bowls with three different QB's (and none being HOF caliber). One of the most impressive coaching accomplishments in football history, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 6:54 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
195579 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 7:36 pm to
great defenses tho'
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4377 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:13 pm to
Yea and there was a time where you didn’t need a HOF caliber QB to win the Super Bowl. People seem to forget that
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26260 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Half a game out of first place, in the division, with a rookie qb.

Fraud!


Obviously this goes both ways, but they are ridiculously close to being 7-2 right now
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10780 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

joe gibbs
marvin lewis
bill parcells


quote:

marvin lewis


Posted by Gator Mike
Member since Sep 2015
535 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:25 pm to
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Obviously this goes both ways, but they are ridiculously close to being 7-2 right now

They lost to the Dolphins in Week 1 17-16 because they fumbled inside the Miami 10-yard line late in the 4th quarter.

They hit the upright on a go-ahead FG attempt late in the 4th quarter against Tampa.

They lost to the Cowboys in overtime.

You could make a case that they're a handful of plays away from being 8-1.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26260 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:34 pm to
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They lost to the Dolphins in Week 1 17-16 because they fumbled inside the Miami 10-yard line late in the 4th quarter.

They hit the upright on a go-ahead FG attempt late in the 4th quarter against Tampa.

They lost to the Cowboys in overtime.

You could make a case that they're a handful of plays away from being 8-1.


Exactly. With the reverse being that they needed a big comeback to beat the Texans and the Chargers game could have gone either way.

But in the end, a team thats 4-0 on the road with a rookie quarterback is probably pretty well coached. The Belichick hate last month was silly
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:38 pm to
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Yea and there was a time where you didn’t need a HOF caliber QB to win the Super Bowl. People seem to forget that


Like Nick Foles & Joe Flacco? Forty year old Manning started about 8/9 games in 2015 & certainly didn't play like a HOFer.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:47 pm to
He's got a bunch of spare parts for a team and has them 5-4 on an upward trajectory. I'd say this has probably been his best coaching job in a while.

How many offensive players on this team would start for other winning teams?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:20 pm to
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He's got a bunch of spare parts for a team and has them 5-4 on an upward trajectory. I'd say this has probably been his best coaching job in a while.
Solid season & the Pats beat the Jets 2x, Texans , Panthers & the Chargers (their best win). They beat 4 bottom feeders & those are games you are supposed to win in order to be competitive. Good for them.


This may be Bill B's 2nd playoff appearance in 9 seasons without Brady ( and an expanded wild card) if they can keep this up. Bill B slurpers think that we are judging him by a few games which isn't the case.
Posted by thewarmth
Bali
Member since May 2010
1891 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:06 pm to
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