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re: Chadwick Boseman in Black Panther
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:21 pm to QJenk
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:21 pm to QJenk
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If Black Panther movie is racist, then you could argue that Captain America:The First Avenger is racist because they were fighting against literal Nazis.
I don't recall Captain America barking everytime the white guy spoke. If you don't remember that part, it was when Martin Freeman went with the other wakandans to visit the neighboring tribe to ask for help. Whenever Martin Freeman's character spoke, the other black tribe would literally bark him down.
Not to mention all the "whitey's fault for everything" mantra.
BP was an ok movie. I found it to be WAY over the top, and for obvious reasons.
Then again, i'm not a "woke" person, nor will i ever be. I believe "wokism" is another form of mental retardation for people to virtue signal their insecurities.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:25 pm to BugAC
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If you don't remember that part, it was when Martin Freeman went with the other wakandans to visit the neighboring tribe to ask for help
They also told Shuri to shut up in that same scene.
Martin Freeman then shot some planes down.
Clearly, you just want to be offended by something.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:28 pm to 3nOut
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I’d say MBJ’s sympathetic nature
Non-sympathetic villains make for forgettable ones. Even Killgrave and Fisk have some portions where you can sort of understand their motives even if they are terrible freaking people.
Contrast that with AntMan’s villain, who was just evil for the sake of being evil. No one remembers him at all.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:28 pm to Broski
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Clearly, you just want to be offended by something.
No, i notice blatant racism when i see it. I found that part, to be obscenely racist.
The only character i liked in the movie was Boseman's character. Other than that, i found the movie to be just ok. Like others said, i found his character in civil war to be more entertaining.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:33 pm to BugAC
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No, i notice blatant racism when i see it.
So Captain America having only one black guy as a bit part in the movie was blatant racism too, right?
Do you see how stupid this is?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:35 pm to BugAC
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No, i notice blatant racism when i see it. I found that part, to be obscenely racist.
Quit crying my God. The Wakandans ( a lot not all) were somewhat xenophobic and snobbish in the movie and the comics so it fits their character my god..they closed their borders to outsiders for centuries.. can't even put anything in movies anymore that fits the character without folks getting offended. Just don't watch the next one.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:45 pm to BugAC
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If you don't remember that part, it was when Martin Freeman went with the other wakandans to visit the neighboring tribe to ask for help. Whenever Martin Freeman's character spoke, the other black tribe would literally bark him down
1. That literally happened 1 time. It was not every time.
2. It was a joke, Mbaku was trying to intimidate him by saying he'll eat him for speaking out of turn again. Turns out, he's a vegetarian and just wanted to give him a hard time.
3. And this is the most important part. You have to remember Mbaku is the king of the Jabari tribe. They came into his throne room without his invitation. Initially, he was being openly hostile to all of them. Think back into older days before the 21st century. If you were to go into a king's throne room unannounced from another nation and just start speaking without being given expressed permission, chances are you will either be executed or thrown in the dungeon.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:50 pm to Broski
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So Captain America having only one black guy as a bit part in the movie was blatant racism too, right?
I don't recall Captain America shouting falcon down every time he spoke, do you?
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Do you see how stupid this is?
Listen, you want to be the wokiest poster in this thread, knock yourself out. I'm pointing out a very obvious racist part in the movie, and you are doing your best to "whatabout" to defend it. Sorry, your woke movie had a very racist part. I get it, it's trendy to hate whitey nowadays. Doesn't mean the movie was worth a shite. Black Panther was an OK movie, that was very "over the top" in presentation because of the optics of the movie, and had some very racist scenes that were overlooked because racism towards one race is "in" nowadays. Everyone knows it, not every one says it.
That being said, to the topic of this thread, CB was the few redeeming characters in the movie, because he was a very LIKEABLE character.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:53 pm to QJenk
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1. That literally happened 1 time. It was not every time.
Ok. And it was noticeable.
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Mbaku was trying to intimidate him by saying he'll eat him for speaking out of turn again. Turns out, he's a vegetarian and just wanted to give him a hard time
I don't remember this part, but i'll take your word for it.
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You have to remember Mbaku is the king of the Jabari tribe. They came into his throne room without his invitation. Initially, he was being openly hostile to all of them. Think back into older days before the 21st century. If you were to go into a king's throne room unannounced from another nation and just start speaking without being given expressed permission, chances are you will either be executed or thrown in the dungeon.
Never thought of it that way.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 1:06 pm to BugAC
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Listen, you want to be the wokiest poster in this thread,
I don't think either movie was racist, just pointing out how stupid your logic is and how easily offended you get.
Very beta.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 1:08 pm to Broski
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I don't think either movie was racist, just pointing out how stupid your logic is and how easily offended you get.
Very beta.
Cringy millennials ...
Posted on 5/17/21 at 1:11 pm to Saibot
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The Wakandans ( a lot not all) were somewhat xenophobic and snobbish in the movie and the comics so it fits their character
I dont think people understand this. People are triggered at the word oppression, or referencing the US prior sins. So let's not use us at all. As an African country, Wakanda is very classist and elitest. There have been alot of atrocities that happened in Africa through the centuries. In Marvel world, all of these things happened as normal, and Wakanda didn't do shite about but be like "that's their problem". They saw the slavery going on in surrounding countries. They didn't care. They saw the wars going on, they didn't care.They knew while their citizens were eating steak and lobster cooked on a Vibranium stove, families outside the country were struggling to find anything to eat at all. They knew about the genocide happening in the Congo from King Leopold. They knew about apartheid in South Africa. They knew about the civil war that happened in Rwanda. Take it out of the country, they probably even knew about the Holocaust. They knew about all the human atrocities such as the Holocaust, the atrocities that happened in Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, and many other things.
In short, Wakanda didn't give a shite. They saw themselves as superior to the world around them. Before Tchalla, if an outsider sneaked into Wakanda, chances are they would have been killed. They were the entire epitomy of "Build the Wall".
I mean think about it with this context, if you're struggling to feed your kids living in a surrounding nation to Wakanda, while also staying in hiding from various fighting going on around you. Yet you knew Wakanda has fricking flying cars and all other kind of crazy technology. You would probably grow to resent Wakanda. This was basically Kilmonger's character. He had a hard life growing up. His father died, grew up in the streets in Oakland. He probably saw his best friends killed in front of him, had a sister who was raped by a stepdad, lived on welfare with mom, probably even got involved in ganglife, etc. He had to do all of this, while he knows his actual family are literal billionaires who completely deserted him. Obviously he went about it the wrong way and that's what makes him a villain, but it is very easy to see how his character became radicalized imo.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 1:23 pm to BugAC
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Then again, i'm not a "woke" person, nor will i ever be.
you are "woke" as frick TBH
Posted on 5/17/21 at 2:05 pm to Broski
Saw 21 bridges the other night. He was great in it fwiw
Posted on 5/17/21 at 3:20 pm to Nado Jenkins83
It's funny you say you saw 21 Bridges because I thought the guy that played his counterpart in the movie would make a nice replacement for him. I know Chadwick B was a great actor and that this kid would have large shoes to fill, but to me, this kid is a good actor and he's a younger, same-size version of Boseman. I don't know his name, but just thought I'd throw that out.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 3:28 pm to QJenk
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Obviously he went about it the wrong way and that's what makes him a villain, but it is very easy to see how his character became radicalized imo.
The best villains are 49% relatable.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 3:47 pm to QJenk
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1. That literally happened 1 time. It was not every time.
again, i don't think BP was overly woke, and honestly that line made me chuckle.
personally, i think Coogler could have gone really woke and virtue signaled all over the place, but he's a good enough director to know that would make the movie cheesy and a mess. despite the critics acclaim, nobody likes movies that beat you over the head with it. there were some jokes and comments in BP, but none of them took away from the overall story or stand out profusely.
that being said, the all girl scene in Endgame was purposeful and cheesy and taints the overall product because it was trying to hard. Coogler didn't try too hard.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:45 pm to Indigold
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Funny. I thought he was terrible This
Same, regarding Jordan. It felt like he overacted so badly the whole movie.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:00 pm to Broski
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With that said, Boseman fricking killed it as T'Challa. Really is a shame we don't get to see him in that role, or any role any more
Him and Michael Jordan are the only reason the movie was good. Two really good actors.
The CGI was completely shitty
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:55 pm to Oates Mustache
His character is great in support but didn't care for him in the lead.
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