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Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:23 am to Ham Solo
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The success of this will depend almost entirely on who they cast as Judge Holden.
Alexander Skarsgard or Jim Caviezal could handle it if they were bleached, roughed up, and aged some. No real chance Caviezal would get a look at the script or take it if he did.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:45 pm to Marciano1
Holy shite - this is going to be fricking awesome. The novel is so damn bleak though... it will be tough to pull off an R-rating. Definitely won't be a film for the masses.
My choice for The Judge? Nathan Jones
My choice for The Judge? Nathan Jones
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:58 pm to Big Red Machine
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They’ll have to rate this X.
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it will be tough to pull off an R-rating
It's not like we've never seen scalping or murder in a move before
The worst part would probably be the dead babies but that 10 second scene could easily just be left out. Or only show legs or something. Yall are acting like what's in the novel is so despicable, so horrendous, so otherwordly that it can barely even be comprehended on this mortal plane by the human mind.
It's scalping. It's murder. It's rape and pillaging. Nothing that hasn't been done in thousands of other films. And all of that would be offset by the other 90 minutes of horseriding and campfire sitting anyway where nothing of substance happens at all.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:05 pm to Marciano1
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New Regency is adapting Pulitzer Prize winner Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian, widely considered one of the greatest works of American literature, as a feature film. John Hillcoat set to direct.
The film will be produced by New Regency, Black Bear Pictures’ Keith Redmon, and Hillcoat. McCarthy and his son, John Francis McCarthy, will serve as executive producers.
Published in 1985, the novel is an epic tale of the violence and depravity that attended America’s westward expansion, brilliantly subverting the conventions of the Western novel and the mythology of the Wild West. Based on historical events that took place on the Texas-Mexico border in the 1850s, it traces the fortunes of the Kid, a 14-year-old Tennesseean who stumbles into a nightmarish world where Indians are being murdered and the market for their scalps is thriving.
In the book, they were being murdered for a very good reason and if the movie doesn't accurately depict the horrors of the book, then there's no point in making it.
Without the violence, there is no book called Blood Meridian. The violence is the book and that includes the profound savagery of the Comanche and the fear they instilled in the Mexicans.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:08 pm to Ham Solo
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The success of this will depend almost entirely on who they cast as Judge Holden.
Mmmmm, that's a big part of it no doubt but to me the success of the movie will rest on whether or not they have the stones to capture the true tone and tenor of the book.
There are no good guys in this. Only evil vs evil.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:12 pm to madmaxvol
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From the earlier thread this week about Blood Meridian, there was a lot of speculation as to who could play Judge Holden. It might sound crazy...but could Vince Vaughn pull it off? He's mostly comedic...but he has played some dark characters before. He's 6'5...reports of the purported history of the real Judge Holden was that he was estimated to be around 6'6. Now...he was an albino, so that doesn't match Vaughn's complexion...still.
Shave any good actor's head and paint his skin white and almost anyone can pull it off. It's not that difficult a role. It really isn't. You just want a good actor. Pick one. Lotsa guys could do it.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:14 pm to LordSnow
Dave Bautista might could do it. The Judge was a little doughy though. He would have to soften up some and also he would probably need some advanced acting technique to play The Judge.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:19 pm to Carson123987
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Holy. shite.
If there’s one director that can pull off Blood Meridian, it’s Hillcoat. Unfortunately, I think the Judge is uncastable. How could anyone pull that off?
It's not that difficult a role, it really isn't. Just think of any good actor who can pull off something maniacally bombastic, preachy, educated and philosophical. That's the Judge right there.
The only thing the actor would need to do is read the book and he's got it.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:23 pm to Thundercles
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Honestly, you watch this Brawl in Cell Block 99 trailer and he's perfect for the cold violence of Holden
Yup. That could work fo sho.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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They’ll have to rate this X.
If you want to do it right. Put it on HBO.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 6:29 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's not like we've never seen scalping or murder in a move before
The worst part would probably be the dead babies but that 10 second scene could easily just be left out. Or only show legs or something. Yall are acting like what's in the novel is so despicable, so horrendous, so otherwordly that it can barely even be comprehended on this mortal plane by the human mind.
It's scalping. It's murder. It's rape and pillaging. Nothing that hasn't been done in thousands of other films. And all of that would be offset by the other 90 minutes of horseriding and campfire sitting anyway where nothing of substance happens at all.
You can't leave that out though. Violence is the book. To flinch and leave that out of the movie is to greatly diminish the story all together.
Otherwise, there's iron in your post. Upvote deployed.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:57 pm to Pandy Fackler
Hillcoat is perfect for this.
His adaption of the road was as good as you're to get.
His adaption of the road was as good as you're to get.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:01 pm to Marciano1
God please let them not frick this up.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:40 am to Marciano1
Russell mfin Crowe has been training his body for the last 5 years for this role.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 9:18 am to JakeFromStateFarm
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God please let them not frick this up.
My biggest worry about this is that they're gonna turn it into the White man oppressing the poor Indian and that's not at all what this is about.
The impetus for the story is the savagery and terror the Comanches were inflicting on the Mexicans and how the Mexican Government hired Whitey to solve the problem.
But I sorta doubt we'll get that part of it. Portraying Indians as they were. Good, bad and ugly is a social taboo in this country.
I'm not all that hopeful we'll get the movie we want.
This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 9:19 am
Posted on 4/30/23 at 9:35 am to Pandy Fackler
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My biggest worry about this is that they're gonna turn it into the White man oppressing the poor Indian and that's not at all what this is about.
Why worry? If they do that it will be a bad movie and we can move on. Way too much hand wringing over this.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 9:35 am to Marciano1
Is hillcoat supposed to be good? Never heard of him or his work
Posted on 4/30/23 at 9:38 am to Pandy Fackler
I don’t think Hillcoat is going to do that. He has already adapted Cormac, has a relationship with him, and McCarthy is an exec producer.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:07 pm to Pandy Fackler
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There are no good guys in this. Only evil vs evil.
The Kid has a bit of an arc towards goodness, but never is actually "Good".
The casting of the Kid and Glanton are going to be critical to the narrative as well.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 6:16 pm
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