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re: The 2025 summer box office was the worst Hollywood has seen since 1981
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:35 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:35 am to RollTide1987
Cost. Over $100 for a family of four with minimal concessions.
Quality. Movie studios have been overrun by executives and producers that would rather be politicians. Looking at you, Kathleen Kennedy.
Quality. Movie studios have been overrun by executives and producers that would rather be politicians. Looking at you, Kathleen Kennedy.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:02 am to Jack Ruby
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You know thats the primary way the actual theater makes money and stays open, right?
The tickets, especially opening weekend, go almost all to. The studios.
I know it's incredibly expensive, but I gladly always buy concessions to help the theater, especially small independent ones. It's an absolute shame they are all about to close because Hollywood has and will Continue to kill itself.
Who cares about that though? I also think it sucks that theaters get so little of the BO revenue, but that also isn't my problem. And when theaters continue to raise prices on simple things like popcorn and a frozen coke, it pisses off customers. If I get a popcorn and two cokes for my wife and me and am paying $30-$40, I'm less likely to come back again very often, especially when I've already spent $30+ on tickets. Going to a theater for a movie for three people shouldn't cost upwards of $100. That is insane.
I get that theaters are struggling, but it's also a service and keeping customers happy should be a priority. Continuing to pass along price hikes to customers will do nothing but push them away. I'm not completely anti hitting up a movie in theaters these days, but I am certainly more averse to it than ever because of how expensive it is. I'd just as soon wait a couple months until it hits streaming and watch it at home.
But I do agree with the article in the OP though, in that the main issue is movie quality these days. There have been times in the last year or two that we've talked about going to the movies and literally couldn't find anything we wanted to watch. That's definitely a huge problem. I'd be more willing to spend an arm and a leg for tickets and concessions if I was clamoring to see something because of how good it looked.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:31 am to RollTide1987
Just checked my local theater. 12 movies showing.
I’ll wait for The Running Man to come to television. Might see Predator at the movies. Saw Black Phone 2 at the movies, should have waited for television.
Not bad in November that 3 movies have peaked my interest from the current week. Powell just will never get me to the movies, but I am interested in seeing the franchise.
I’ll wait for The Running Man to come to television. Might see Predator at the movies. Saw Black Phone 2 at the movies, should have waited for television.
Not bad in November that 3 movies have peaked my interest from the current week. Powell just will never get me to the movies, but I am interested in seeing the franchise.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:04 am to Civildawg
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My theater just went up on ticket prices again.
The whole experience is too much. Going to the movies used to be something you just did... now it's something you have to consider if it's worth it.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:04 am to RollTide1987
I haven’t seen a non kids movie in the theaters in 12-13 years since we had our first. We go see all of the major non shitty kids ones.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:12 am to RollTide1987
They dont make anything that isnt DEI- feminist anti-male. The stories arent interesting at all because the themes/message comes across as angry and hostile, like an ignorant whiny child.
Or like an annoying bitchy woman, which is basically who gets to write for all of these shows/movies.
No one wants to see angsty-therapy shows. Thats why Hallmark channel exists.
Or like an annoying bitchy woman, which is basically who gets to write for all of these shows/movies.
No one wants to see angsty-therapy shows. Thats why Hallmark channel exists.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:19 am to SammyTiger
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Aladdin remake no one talks about made a billion.
And I like F1 and Weapons but I would much rather a rewatch of a thousand older movies before i'd watch either of those again.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:22 am to bad93ex
quote:same. I only go for the experience if it's a rainy night or cold night in the winter to see something my kids want.
Personally I don't care to go to the movie theater to watch a movie
Dad rocking his Carhartt jacket stuffed with peanut m&ms and bottled waters
I think I've been to the theater twice this year.
Also noticed everyone else is in PJs and slippers and carrying blankets
This is where we are, folks.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:34 am to RollTide1987
What would today's box office take be if we got these movies this year?
Domestic Box Office For 1981
1 Superman II $108,185,706 1,878 $108,185,706 Jun 19 Warner Bros.
2 Stripes $85,297,000 1,074 $85,297,000 Jun 26 Columbia Pictures
3 The Cannonball Run $72,179,579 1,692 $72,179,579 Jun 19 Twentieth Century Fox
4 For Your Eyes Only $54,812,802 952 $54,812,802 Jun 26 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
5 The Four Seasons $50,427,646 623 $50,427,646 May 22 Universal Pictures
6 Excalibur $34,967,437 692 $34,967,437 Apr 10 Warner Bros.
7 History of the World: Part I $31,672,907 484 $31,672,907 Jun 12 Twentieth Century Fox
8 Bustin' Loose $31,261,269 828 $31,261,269 May 22 Universal Pictures
9 The Great Muppet Caper $31,206,251 73 $31,206,251 Jun 26 Universal Pictures
10 Endless Love $31,184,024 574 $31,184,024 Jul 17 Universal Pictures
11 An American Werewolf in London $30,565,292 870 $30,565,292 Aug 21 Universal Pictures
12 Halloween II $25,533,818 1,211 $25,533,818 Oct 30 Universal Pictures
13 Body Heat $24,058,838 34 $24,058,838 Aug 28 Warner Bros.
14 Raiders of the Lost Ark $21,861,910 1,078 $212,222,025 Jun 12 Paramount Pictures
15 Friday the 13th: Part 2 $21,722,776 1,350 $21,722,776 Apr 30 Paramount Pictures
16 The Final Conflict $20,471,382 918 $20,471,382 Mar 20 Twentieth Century Fox
17 The Incredible Shrinking Woman $20,259,961 789 $20,259,961 Jan 30 Universal Pictures
18 Under the Rainbow $18,826,490 488 $18,826,490 Jul 31 Warner Bros.
19 Outland $17,374,595 331 $17,374,595 May 22 Warner Bros.
20 Continental Divide $15,578,237 864 $15,578,237 Sep 18 Universal Pictures
21 Nighthawks $14,905,359 659 $14,905,359 Apr 10 Universal Pictures
22 Dragonslayer $14,110,013 868 $14,110,013 Jun 26 Paramount Pictures
23 The Legend of the Lone Ranger $12,617,845 1,018 $12,617,845 May 22 Universal Pictures
24 Back Roads $11,809,387 805 $11,809,387 Mar 13 Warner Bros.
25 Wolfen $10,626,725 967 $10,626,725 Jul 24 Warner Bros.
26 Time Bandits $9,296,223 821 $42,365,581 Nov 6 Embassy Pictures
27 Neighbors $9,259,122 1,387 $29,916,207 Dec 18 Columbia Pictures
28 Prince of the City $8,124,257 3 $8,124,257 Aug 19 Warner Bros.
29 The Funhouse $7,886,857 814 $7,886,857 Mar 13 Universal Pictures
30 Modern Problems $6,797,672 1,119 $26,154,211 Dec 25 Twentieth Century Fox
31 Student Bodies $5,165,432 628 $5,165,432 Aug 7 Paramount Pictures
32 All Night Long $4,454,295 362 $4,454,295 Mar 6 Universal Pictures
33 Sharky's Machine $4,317,201 1,388 $35,610,100 Dec 18 Warner Bros.
34 Absence of Malice $3,897,187 994 $40,716,963 Nov 20 Columbia Pictures
35 Reds $3,875,048 644 $40,382,659 Dec 4 Paramount Pictures
36 The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper $3,702,028 867 $3,702,028 Nov 13 Universal Pictures
37 Arthur $3,626,046 701 $95,461,682 Jul 17 Warner Bros.
38 Taps $3,401,281 792 $35,856,053 Dec 9 Twentieth Century Fox
39 Ghost Story $3,283,067 600 $23,371,905 Dec 16 Universal Pictures
40 Zoot Suit $3,256,082 57 $3,256,082 Oct 2 Universal Pictures
41 Rollover $3,229,556 755 $10,851,261 Dec 11 Warner Bros.
42 Modern Romance $2,863,642 1 $2,863,642 Mar 13 Columbia Pictures
43 The Hand $2,447,576 183 $2,447,576 Apr 24 Warner Bros.
44 Heartbeeps $2,154,696 493 $2,154,696 Dec 18 Universal Pictures
45 This Is Elvis $2,028,612 309 $2,028,612 Apr 10 Warner Bros.
46 Sphinx $2,022,771 214 $2,022,771 Feb 13 Warner Bros.
47 Honky Tonk Freeway $2,004,742 629 $2,004,742 Aug 21 Universal Pictures
48 Raggedy Man $1,976,198 199 $1,976,198 Sep 18 Universal Pictures
49 King of the Mountain $1,791,147 703 $1,791,147 May 1 Universal Pictures
50 Cinderella
1981 Re-release
$1,733,334 1,050 $28,040,000 Dec 18 Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
51 Silence of the North $1,622,898 272 $1,622,898 Oct 23 Universal Pictures
52 Eyes of a Stranger $1,118,634 180 $1,118,634 Mar 27 Warner Bros.
53 On Golden Pond $564,824 1,015 $119,285,432 Dec 4 Universal Pictures
54 Cattle Annie and Little Britches $534,816 215 $534,816 Apr 24 Universal Pictures
55 Ragtime $252,251 447 $14,920,781 Nov 20 Paramount Pictures
56 Chariots of Fire $106,011 810 $58,972,904 Sep 25 Columbia Pictures
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/1981/?grossesOption=calendarGrosses
Domestic Box Office For 1981
1 Superman II $108,185,706 1,878 $108,185,706 Jun 19 Warner Bros.
2 Stripes $85,297,000 1,074 $85,297,000 Jun 26 Columbia Pictures
3 The Cannonball Run $72,179,579 1,692 $72,179,579 Jun 19 Twentieth Century Fox
4 For Your Eyes Only $54,812,802 952 $54,812,802 Jun 26 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
5 The Four Seasons $50,427,646 623 $50,427,646 May 22 Universal Pictures
6 Excalibur $34,967,437 692 $34,967,437 Apr 10 Warner Bros.
7 History of the World: Part I $31,672,907 484 $31,672,907 Jun 12 Twentieth Century Fox
8 Bustin' Loose $31,261,269 828 $31,261,269 May 22 Universal Pictures
9 The Great Muppet Caper $31,206,251 73 $31,206,251 Jun 26 Universal Pictures
10 Endless Love $31,184,024 574 $31,184,024 Jul 17 Universal Pictures
11 An American Werewolf in London $30,565,292 870 $30,565,292 Aug 21 Universal Pictures
12 Halloween II $25,533,818 1,211 $25,533,818 Oct 30 Universal Pictures
13 Body Heat $24,058,838 34 $24,058,838 Aug 28 Warner Bros.
14 Raiders of the Lost Ark $21,861,910 1,078 $212,222,025 Jun 12 Paramount Pictures
15 Friday the 13th: Part 2 $21,722,776 1,350 $21,722,776 Apr 30 Paramount Pictures
16 The Final Conflict $20,471,382 918 $20,471,382 Mar 20 Twentieth Century Fox
17 The Incredible Shrinking Woman $20,259,961 789 $20,259,961 Jan 30 Universal Pictures
18 Under the Rainbow $18,826,490 488 $18,826,490 Jul 31 Warner Bros.
19 Outland $17,374,595 331 $17,374,595 May 22 Warner Bros.
20 Continental Divide $15,578,237 864 $15,578,237 Sep 18 Universal Pictures
21 Nighthawks $14,905,359 659 $14,905,359 Apr 10 Universal Pictures
22 Dragonslayer $14,110,013 868 $14,110,013 Jun 26 Paramount Pictures
23 The Legend of the Lone Ranger $12,617,845 1,018 $12,617,845 May 22 Universal Pictures
24 Back Roads $11,809,387 805 $11,809,387 Mar 13 Warner Bros.
25 Wolfen $10,626,725 967 $10,626,725 Jul 24 Warner Bros.
26 Time Bandits $9,296,223 821 $42,365,581 Nov 6 Embassy Pictures
27 Neighbors $9,259,122 1,387 $29,916,207 Dec 18 Columbia Pictures
28 Prince of the City $8,124,257 3 $8,124,257 Aug 19 Warner Bros.
29 The Funhouse $7,886,857 814 $7,886,857 Mar 13 Universal Pictures
30 Modern Problems $6,797,672 1,119 $26,154,211 Dec 25 Twentieth Century Fox
31 Student Bodies $5,165,432 628 $5,165,432 Aug 7 Paramount Pictures
32 All Night Long $4,454,295 362 $4,454,295 Mar 6 Universal Pictures
33 Sharky's Machine $4,317,201 1,388 $35,610,100 Dec 18 Warner Bros.
34 Absence of Malice $3,897,187 994 $40,716,963 Nov 20 Columbia Pictures
35 Reds $3,875,048 644 $40,382,659 Dec 4 Paramount Pictures
36 The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper $3,702,028 867 $3,702,028 Nov 13 Universal Pictures
37 Arthur $3,626,046 701 $95,461,682 Jul 17 Warner Bros.
38 Taps $3,401,281 792 $35,856,053 Dec 9 Twentieth Century Fox
39 Ghost Story $3,283,067 600 $23,371,905 Dec 16 Universal Pictures
40 Zoot Suit $3,256,082 57 $3,256,082 Oct 2 Universal Pictures
41 Rollover $3,229,556 755 $10,851,261 Dec 11 Warner Bros.
42 Modern Romance $2,863,642 1 $2,863,642 Mar 13 Columbia Pictures
43 The Hand $2,447,576 183 $2,447,576 Apr 24 Warner Bros.
44 Heartbeeps $2,154,696 493 $2,154,696 Dec 18 Universal Pictures
45 This Is Elvis $2,028,612 309 $2,028,612 Apr 10 Warner Bros.
46 Sphinx $2,022,771 214 $2,022,771 Feb 13 Warner Bros.
47 Honky Tonk Freeway $2,004,742 629 $2,004,742 Aug 21 Universal Pictures
48 Raggedy Man $1,976,198 199 $1,976,198 Sep 18 Universal Pictures
49 King of the Mountain $1,791,147 703 $1,791,147 May 1 Universal Pictures
50 Cinderella
1981 Re-release
$1,733,334 1,050 $28,040,000 Dec 18 Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
51 Silence of the North $1,622,898 272 $1,622,898 Oct 23 Universal Pictures
52 Eyes of a Stranger $1,118,634 180 $1,118,634 Mar 27 Warner Bros.
53 On Golden Pond $564,824 1,015 $119,285,432 Dec 4 Universal Pictures
54 Cattle Annie and Little Britches $534,816 215 $534,816 Apr 24 Universal Pictures
55 Ragtime $252,251 447 $14,920,781 Nov 20 Paramount Pictures
56 Chariots of Fire $106,011 810 $58,972,904 Sep 25 Columbia Pictures
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/1981/?grossesOption=calendarGrosses
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:58 am to CAD703X
There are less desirable moves but I really do think Covid + Bigger cheaper TVs + every movie being in a streaming service as soon as the studios lose the majority of the ticket sale price killed theatres for anything that is not an event film.
Aquaman made 1.15 Billion in 2018
It’s not like they were into making classics pre-covid.
Aquaman made 1.15 Billion in 2018
It’s not like they were into making classics pre-covid.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:05 am to SammyTiger
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2018
Was actually a bigger year at the box office than 2019: $11.8 billion at the global box office vs. $11.3 billion. By comparison, we are about to enter December here in 2025 and the global box office is currently sitting at $7.1 billion. However, Wicked: For Good and Avatar: Fire and Ash will likely push the box office above $9 billion by the time all is said and done.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:09 am to RollTide1987
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global box office is currently sitting at $7.1 billion
It’s even worse when you consider $2 billion of that is a single Chinese animated children’s film called Ne Zha 2 that nobody outside of China has ever heard of.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:40 am to hsfolk
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quit charging an arm and leg for concessions
No shite. I'm aware that concessions are the primary money maker for theaters, but the prices are out of control.
I took the family to see the Back to the Future re-release. 5 of us cost me $130 in concessions.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
I know this was 2024, but did they really think a movie with that name would sell?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:42 am to hsfolk
it’s a funny concept but it didn’t have the legs for a full movie vs a Key and Peele skit.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
Maybe they should stop releasing summer movies on digital the same fricking month they come out in theaters and people might decide against waiting to see them?
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:56 pm to RollTide1987
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The Times does, in a roundabout way, admit that part of the problem is quality, as in tired franchises that don’t deliver like they once did: Superman, Jurassic Park, all things Marvel, etc.
Yawn
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:56 pm to Dr RC
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Maybe they should stop releasing summer movies on digital the same fricking month they come out in theaters and people might decide against waiting to see them?
They’re trying to maximize their share of the ticket sales. The longer a film is in the theater, the larger the percentage the theater keeps.
Studios need big opening for their big budget films.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:25 pm to Philzilla2k
A lot of terrible movies and pushing woke politics has pushed people away.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:36 pm to RollTide1987
I think I only saw Weapons and One Battle after another this summer. And technically one battle came out after the end of summer lol.
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