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re: The Prometheus (Major Spoiler) Discussion Thread
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:12 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:12 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
The motives of most of the people in the movie made no sense.
Hell for a trillion bucks Weyland might have been able to come up with a cure for old age on his own.
I also would have preferred that the Archaeologists started out finding the cave with the paintings ALONG with some alien technology.
Do you honestly think anyone would spend 1 trillion dollars to send a ship off somewhere a zillion miles away based on 5 orbs being placed in a painting?
Since we find out IMMEDIATELY that there were aliens and since we already KNEW that going into the movie, there was NO reason not to make the trip more plausible by having them FIND alien tech on Earth.
Hell for a trillion bucks Weyland might have been able to come up with a cure for old age on his own.
I also would have preferred that the Archaeologists started out finding the cave with the paintings ALONG with some alien technology.
Do you honestly think anyone would spend 1 trillion dollars to send a ship off somewhere a zillion miles away based on 5 orbs being placed in a painting?
Since we find out IMMEDIATELY that there were aliens and since we already KNEW that going into the movie, there was NO reason not to make the trip more plausible by having them FIND alien tech on Earth.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:20 pm
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:20 pm to TigerMyth36
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Do you honestly think anyone would spend 1 trillion dollars to send a ship off somewhere based on 5 orbs being placed in a painting?
The thesis was 7 or 8 paintings from cultures with no contact, but I see your point that it would be a hard sell, plus I agree for a trillion bucks he might have prolonged his life himself.
What I think they should have done that would have been easier is talking about human evolution more. During the movie, the biologist scoffs at them fighting a few hundred years of Darwinism.
But in my opinion, all the writers could have said was these paintings, coupled by some profound studies into the human genome, other experiments, point to, its a bad word, "intelligent design."
If you are going to use religion motifs and the like, why not use intelligen design (a controversial topic today and therefore audience can relate) and make it believable that future scientists had found clues that give it some merit?
Also, you wouldn't need alien tech itself, but perhaps found with these painting were huge jumps in technology, indicating it was gifted (like Prometheus gifted fire).
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:22 pm to TomyDingo
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The two scientist going from fearing for their life to "Hey there little fella" when they encountered the snake-like creature
Yeah wtf kind of biologist just picks up random species that he has no knowledge of whether it is dangerous or not and treats it like a bunny rabbit or something?
Also, WTF Charlize RUN TO THE SIDE DAMNIT. Shaw falls and rolls 5 yards to the side and she's out of the rolling space ship's way, but dumbass Charlize would rather run 100 yards straight more and get her arse squashed like a bug. That type of thing is always in movies.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:27 pm to Lacour
quote:wasn't the guys smoking weed in their respirator like right before that? Might explain the change from serious to a goofy behavior
So what do they do? They are all happy and joking and giddy, even though a moment ago they were freaking out about encountering lifeforms and went in the opposite direction when the captain told them about it. So we try to pet the pissed off alien.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:28 pm to Lacour
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WHY IS THE BIG arse ALIEN SUCH A JERK?
I wondered this myself. Why the hell did he just start flipping shite after 2 seconds?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:30 pm to GeauxUtes
I didn't love this movie, but I appreciated a lot of things about it. It looked beautiful, was well acted, thought big, but for me the story just had too many holes. A lot of bad decisions by characters I didn't care about. Second to none SFX, worked well as a stand alone prequel, enough nods to the fans, but not slavish to the source material. It dreamed bigger than most summer movies, the idea was there, thought it needed another thirty minutes to fill in holes, develop characters. A worthy Alien entry, but definitely had it's challenges.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:31 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I wondered this myself. Why the hell did he just start flipping shite after 2 seconds?
The only explanation given was that they were going to destroy humanity 2,000 years ago.
So, in that regard, you have the Engineer waking up, probably groggy, then taking a second to size up what has awakened him. Upon realizing they are humans, which might take a second since to his knowledge, we are still retarded as a race, he follows the plan to destroy since he wouldn't have been aware of the last 2,000 years.
The real question is, did humanity even have a shot at changing his mind if we had showed up in a more deserving manner?
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:33 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Once again. Why are we even still alive? The order to exterminate us would have come fron the home world. Seems at some point in the last 2000 years, they would have tried again.
I assume the answer is that the xenos infestation got off the moon qnd destroyed the egineers home planet too. Sorry i spoled the sequel for you
I assume the answer is that the xenos infestation got off the moon qnd destroyed the egineers home planet too. Sorry i spoled the sequel for you
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:54 am to TigerMyth36
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Once again. Why are we even still alive? The order to exterminate us would have come fron the home world. Seems at some point in the last 2000 years, they would have tried again. I assume the answer is that the xenos infestation got off the moon qnd destroyed the egineers home planet too. Sorry i spoled the sequel for you
Naw, its something I have considered. I think it is a pretty obvious possibility and it makes the most sense. The Engineers are so far advanced that they could have decided to end us with something else besides the goo, so I would guess this weapon's facility ended up backfiring in a more serious manner than just the depot itself, or else they would have succeeded in killing us. That depot had to have caused more problems than just itself. If it was like Pearl Harbor, they would have had a shitload more bases and means of launching an attack on Earth. The problem on LV-223 definitely left it.
This post was edited on 6/11/12 at 12:57 am
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:22 am to Lacour
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No one is answering any questions.
Maybe because no one here was involved with the making of the film.
You didn't like it. Others did.
That's how movies are.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:24 am to tiggerthetooth
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I wondered this myself. Why the hell did he just start flipping shite after 2 seconds?
I'm guessing it had something to do with what David told him. David can afford being ripped apart a la Bishop.
Notice there were no subtitles.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:43 am to la_birdman
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I'm guessing it had something to do with what David told him. David can afford being ripped apart a la Bishop. Notice there were no subtitles.
David: "We've raped all of your women, and are heading to your home world to take care of the rest. This old guy next to me has done most of the damage, so humanity has elected him our leader. We attached this mechanical suit to him so he can continue raping your women as long as he still breathes. We woke you up because you are next."
Engineer: "........." Starts killing folks.
But ya, David was self-aware and wasn't happy with the humans, so he easily could have told that Engineer something pretty messed up.
This post was edited on 6/11/12 at 1:45 am
Posted on 6/11/12 at 2:15 am to la_birdman
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I'm guessing it had something to do with what David told him. David can afford being ripped apart a la Bishop.
Notice there were no subtitles
That's actually a good idea, but his whole programming was to pretty much blow Weyland and take care of him. Weyland called him a son and David would do anything for him. That would have been a cool twist though
Posted on 6/11/12 at 3:03 am to TigerMyth36
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Just as I called bullshite in Avatar for people tossing their lives away, I call bullshite on the 2 crewmen deciding to hang with the Captain when he rammed the ship.
Agreed. Pretty unremarkable characters for the most part, I guess since the audience doesn't really care about their survival it makes sense that they'd be all flippant about it.
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Charlize was pissed the whole movie for no real reason. Her character didn't make much sense.
It's clear why she's pissed: she's compelled to go on a long-arse mission she disagrees with in concept, a mission that entails extending the life of her father and thus limiting her power. Now, the father thing was completely throw-away and the reveal pretty cringe-worthy IMO.
My initial thought when it was revealed that the vases essentially contained WMD was that Earth was developed as a test subject for a new warfare agent. Not sure how well that fits in with the cave paintings that prompted the trip, but I think it would've been a more fitting motivator than...well, apparently nothing.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 3:05 am to Legendairy
Perhaps there was a message in the engineers decision to whack Weyland with Davids removed head?
Posted on 6/11/12 at 5:26 am to la_birdman
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Maybe because no one here was involved with the making of the film. You didn't like it. Others did. That's how movies are. Post Reply • Back to Top
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Posted on 6/11/12 at 7:15 am to Lacour
Weeeelllll,I suppose I could take every single sci fi movie ever produced and come up with a list of flaws, be it the plot, logic, scientific consistency, character motivation, what have you. Make that "I'm certain" I could do so. Beginning with that overblown abomination called "Inception".
Of course, they're were a few holes in "Prometheus". And the gratuitous scene with the zombie/werewolf crew member was absurd an served no plot purpose.
I didn't expect this movie to be as good as "Alien". I just expected it to look good, have some decent performances, give me a few tense or exciting scenes and provide summer entertainment. It did so. Thank you, but I'll reserve my deep analysis for those movies that require it.
Of course, they're were a few holes in "Prometheus". And the gratuitous scene with the zombie/werewolf crew member was absurd an served no plot purpose.
I didn't expect this movie to be as good as "Alien". I just expected it to look good, have some decent performances, give me a few tense or exciting scenes and provide summer entertainment. It did so. Thank you, but I'll reserve my deep analysis for those movies that require it.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 7:41 am to VOR
quote:While I generally do agree with this, anytime you're making a movie that is exploring the origins of humanity and existence, it's fair to try to analyize the story
I just expected it to look good, have some decent performances, give me a few tense or exciting scenes and provide summer entertainment. It did so. Thank you, but I'll reserve my deep analysis for those movies that require it.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 7:46 am to VOR
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Of course, they're were a few holes in "Prometheus". And the gratuitous scene with the zombie/werewolf crew member was absurd an served no plot purpose.
A few holes?
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Thank you, but I'll reserve my deep analysis for those movies that require it.
Well, we've got posters in this thread talking about the film's "profound" nature and examining all of the deep underlying "Meanings."
So apparently you and I missed something.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 8:11 am to Lacour
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Well, we've got posters in this thread talking about the film's "profound" nature and examining all of the deep underlying "Meanings."
So apparently you and I missed something.
But that whole thing is what Hitchcock would call the "McGuffin". It's worth a surface analysis, but to try to get too deep in it is not worth it. I'm certainly not going to allow it to take away from enjoying what is well made action/suspense/horror/scifi movie.
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