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Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:58 pm to drizztiger
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Tom wouldn't be with the family if not for Sonny.
THIS.
As per the original Mario Puzo book, when the family was younger and still living in Little Italy in New York City, it was Sonny who found a poor, malnourished boy with a bad eye infection -- Tom Hagen-- on the streets and brought him home, proclaiming they were going to take care of him. Don Corleone had a doctor successfully treat Tom's eye infection, and over time, Tom starting spending more and more nights at their home in a warm bed, being fed well. On Tom's part, he never felt so loved and cared for; his parents were both neglectful alcoholics who didn't really take care of him or realized he was gone. Tom Hagen eventually started living with the Corleones full-time as a member of the family, though the Don would not formally adopt him as he did not think it was proper to do so with Hagen's parents still alive. This is why in the movie, Michael told Kay Tom was his brother.
The Don paid for his schooling, college and law school, and after law school was going to get Tom a job anywhere he wanted, but Tom, full of gratitude, told him, "I want to work for you, Godfather" and faithfully served him as attorney afterwards.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:59 pm to wildtigercat93
How's the book versus the movie?
I only read real crime fiction
I only read real crime fiction
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:01 pm to sqerty
quote:
How's the book versus the movie?
the book is great. it's all the stuff from Godfather plus the flashback stuff from Godfather 2. i read it in one sitting in college.
there's also some stuff about a large vagina that needs to surgical correction.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:21 pm to Sam Quint
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i think Sonny and Tom respected each other entirely, but if ANYONE was disrespectful of the other, it was Sonny towards Tom
Sonny and Tom were closer as friends and that as well as Sonny being irrational would lead to more visible conflict.
Obviously with Vito, Tom was only going to give tactful advices.
In I, it seems Tom isn’t sure how to handle Michael at first and questions him, but soon after and by II his demeanor evolves to respect and even fear and Michael evolves.
Really, the acting involved in Tom and Michael’s relationship and interactions is damn good.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:56 pm to drizztiger
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Apparently it's in Ed Falco's prequel novel The Family Corleone (2013), which I have not read.
really good book.
it covers the events that lead up to and includes last war from 10 years prior to the Godfather (the one Clemenza references in the gun scene with Michael).
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:26 pm to wildtigercat93
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Imo the line “you aren’t a wartime consigliere” is just a lie/excuse to make Tom feel better
No, it's the truth. Tom is dispassionate and always puts business first. That's an excellent quality in a peacetime consigliere, but in war there are times that you have to have to put honor and action before business, and even more importantly you have to be able to understand when your opponent will choose to put honor and action before business. Sonny is the opposite of Tom and acts off of impulse and emotion. Ultimately both Sonny and Tom fail at their duties during wartime, Tom because he doesn't think like a warrior, and Sonny because he only thinks like a warrior. Michael combines the best (well, best in a manner of speaking) qualities of them both - he prioritizes business and always makes sure that the family's interests are served first, but he never forgets a wrong and he never lets one go unpunished.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:41 pm to TheTideMustRoll
quote:Hail Mary, Full of Grace.
but he never forgets a wrong and he never lets one go unpunished
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:45 pm to Sam Quint
quote:
there's also some stuff about a large vagina that needs to surgical correction.
I can imagine non book readers seeing references to this being really confused.
The book is GREAT minus that one story line about Lucy and the doctor. It's been a while since I've read it, but does the Lucy story tie in to the other stuff? I can't remember
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:15 pm to BamaSaint
quote:Yeah, it was a completely unnecessary sidetrack in the book. It was pretty clear in GF1 opening wedding and setup that Sonny was swinging some massive stuff - and then edited out the side story surgery.
I can imagine non book readers seeing references to this being really confused.
That is one of the things that makes the movies better than the original book. It's also why whenever Godfather comes up, we always mention, some random is going to Cali to get the vagina tightness.
It is so out of place for the the narrative.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:37 pm to burger bearcat
They were like brothers. He could say it.
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